Giovani dos Santos at Tottenham Hotspur F.C. Vol. IX [R]

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  1. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
  2. inflames

    inflames New Member

    Sep 13, 2007
    well Liverpool does need an exciting midfielder to help out Gerrard, sad they just seem to be a mid table team this year but if Gio plays regularly that would be great
     
  3. zenden

    zenden Member+

    Nov 12, 2006
    yo estoy en Europa
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Never gonna happen, but I can dream can't I?

    -------------------torres----------
    j.cole------gerrard-----------gio
    ------------------------lucas-----
    ---------meireles/poulsen--------
     
  4. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mario Gomez from Germany might get signed too.
     
  5. inflames

    inflames New Member

    Sep 13, 2007
    man lucas sucks, sometimes I think they are better off playing with 10
     
  6. zenden

    zenden Member+

    Nov 12, 2006
    yo estoy en Europa
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not trying to get off topic, but he looked good for Brazil against the nads. Xabi leaving left a big hole to fill and Lucas is not a playmaker.
     
  7. SerenPerro

    SerenPerro Member

    Dec 14, 2007
    San Anto Texas
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Gio on the bench

    SUBS - Pletikosa, Palacios, Sandro, Kranjcar, Giovani, Pavlyuchenko, Keane.
     
  8. BS49

    BS49 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Drinking a beer
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That is actually a good sign that Gio made the bench and Bentley did not and from looking at the glut of attacking options on the bench I think Gio will be the direct replacement for Lennon.
     
  9. commitment#4

    commitment#4 Member

    Oct 1, 2005
    Club:
    CA Monarcas Morelia
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  10. texanballer

    texanballer Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Gio in for Rafa Van Der Vaart.

    How does he look?
     
  11. rawr

    rawr Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Cali
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Bad. Everytime he got the ball he just passed it back. The whole team was bad though, so yeah.
     
  12. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    Gio barely touched the ball. He did track back a few times to help defend.
     
  13. BS49

    BS49 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Drinking a beer
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I thought it was a good sign that Gio played today. I thought we would not see much of him going forward. Harry must see something in him still. He just needs his first EPL goal to get him some confidence.
     
  14. texanballer

    texanballer Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    good sign indeed. Especially after a bad showing in the carling cup.
     
  15. BigClos

    BigClos Red Card

    Jun 6, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He looked like garbage, In those 15min he was in.
     
  16. texanballer

    texanballer Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Why dosent he run with the ball and break defender's ankles? Maybe Arry wants to see some selfishness out there.
     
  17. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA
  18. Dos Santos

    Dos Santos Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    So.Cal
    I dont think Gio gets arry's system. There was a time where arry was yelling at Gio to come back for a pass.

    Really poor game from Giovani, as a sub you should make an impact and he didnt do anything. Pav at least took some shots from distance.
     
  19. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    He played 13 minutes and touched the ball three times. Completed two passes and Barrera intercepted the other one.

    Made three runs when Spurs was attacking and only received the ball near the box once. Actually he didn't, Pavlyuchenko tried to dribble past three dudes and then just kicked the ball in Gio's direction.

    When Spurs didn't have the ball, he tracked back to defend and covered some ground in the midfield, even got called for a foul on Boa Morte.

    Somewhat ineffective but a bad game? Again, he only played 13 mins.

    Gio is still learning and the only way you'll see him excel is if he's given a run of games in order to raise his confidence and get some match rhythm. He's playing sporadically and being given scrap minutes every now and then and some of you expect him to light it up?

    VanderVaart and Modric played almost the whole game and couldn't muster any offense for Spurs but Gio's rusty ass is supposed to come in and save the day?

    no mamen
     
  20. rawr

    rawr Member

    Jul 13, 2010
    Cali
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What is he supposed to do then? Just walk around and keep passing the ball back?
     
  21. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    He's supposed to do whatever is asked of him.

    In case you haven't noticed, Gio isn't the focal point of Tottenham's attack like he is with the Mexican NT.

    West Ham's wide players were having a field day with Hutton (and Bale to a lesser extent) so for all we know, Redknapp asked Gio to help keep the right side from being completely shredded while Spurs looked for an equalizer.

    I won't speculate as to what Redknapp has in store for Gio but it's very obvious he's low in confidence. He probably thought he was going to get a good amount of minutes this season based on the fact that he started most of their pre-season games but that hasn't been the case.

    Either way, the lack of thorough analysis when it comes to the Mex Abroad section is sad. If dudes don't score then they're scolded, if they only play 20 mins they're scolded, if they don't play at all they're scolded.
     
  22. BS49

    BS49 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Drinking a beer
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Good posts here. The one thing that concerns me is that Spurs were down by one and the only reason Gio was put in was to help tie up the game. Gio is not a very good defensive midfielder so I have to believe he was put in for offense and he offered very little in that regard. I will not judge him form these 13 minutes but from the bad 45 midweek.
     
  23. texanballer

    texanballer Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Whatever it is he is doing, it must be good to keep on playing. I guess you all are right. Hes like a holding winger i guess.
     
  24. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    I think Redknapp sees his potential and is trying to bring him along slowly but the only times Gio has had consistent playing time have been with Ipswich Town, the NT and Galatasaray and that's when we saw flashes of his true potential.

    With that said, I'm not blind to Gio's tactical (and mental) shortcomings. It's easy to say now in retrospect but Gio cut his own development short when he left Barca.

    Gio's best games with Barca took place when he started from the midfield line and made runs into the attacking third and combined with other players. When he was asked to directly replace Messi, he looked lost.

    Messi took a similar path. At first he was playing as a midfielder on the right but he would drop back really deep to get the ball from the defenders or midfielders and would then run with the ball and combine with other players. Once he found his comfort level, he was able to push up and roam around the attacking third while being just as effective, if not more.

    Gio on the other hand, hasn't found his comfort level, he tends to think he can run past players and he certainly can but not all the time and if he gets by one or two defenders, the third will come in and steal the ball from him. Most of his coaches know he can do damage from different parts of the field but the problem is he's not really all that effective in any of them since he hasn't played consistenty in any of those positions.

    Redknapp once said Gio got glowing reviews from Roy Keane.

    Roy Keane played Gio on the right wing and Redknapp seems to be following suit.

    The difference is that Keane gave Gio some freedom to roam behind the strikers and needless to say, the Championship is a tier below the Premiership quality wise.
     
  25. texanballer

    texanballer Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Didnt Roy Keane say hes too good for the championship when their fans wanted him to be bought?
     

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