Italia vs Estonia pre-game

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by Deleted User x, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Palombo is not a destroyer at all. And Antonelli is a (rubbish) left back.

    If we need a pure DM, let's call up Ambrosini.

    Agree on Maggio, he's better than Pepe on the right wing. Guberti, Marchionni, Sculli too.
     
  2. tdrazz

    tdrazz Member

    Feb 14, 2005
    Falc as soon Pepe went they scored,its a sign Pepe has no business being a starter...or yet being on the team
     
  3. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Certainly because Pepe was the one who made us non-functional on corner kicks. Bonucci cleared the space on the first goal and he put away the second goal. I guess he should be thankful for the Pepe substitution.

    Meanwhile, with Pepe off the field, we still did not score in open play and we were vulnerable to counter attacks. Explain that one.
     
  4. AmericanKaka

    AmericanKaka Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    I think we can safely disregard your opinions on Samp players, considering who you support. And because they are ludicrous in their own right.
     
  5. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i missed the game today, i was unhappy to see results and see estonia scored a goal, and not only that the first goal, so italy had to come back AGAIN


    can u guys tell me who started and who were subbed??


    Thanks in advance
     
  6. Canadian Azzurri

    Nov 14, 2006
    Canada
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    [LINEUP-4-3-3]Cassano, Pazzini, Pepe, De Rossi, Pirlo, Montolivo, Molinaro, Chiellini, Bonucci, Cassani, Sirigu[/LINEUP-4-3-3]

    After the subs it was more like:

    [LINEUP-4-4-2]Pazzini, Quagliarella, Antonelli, De Rossi, Pirlo, Palombo, Molinaro, Chiellini, Bonucci, Cassani, Sirigu[/LINEUP-4-4-2]
     
  7. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    thank u


    still goals on set pieces :eek: but im so glad to see cassano back

    btw, why was palombo on the right? or thats just how it is in the formation pic?
     
  8. Canadian Azzurri

    Nov 14, 2006
    Canada
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It was an odd look, half 4-4-2, half 4-5-1/4-3-3...Palombo was definitely tucked inside, but when Quagliarella moved up front more, he was covering that flank.
     
  9. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    It's amazing how, after we've talked so much about the need for world-class talent, one of our current glaring problems is actually lack of a true mediano.

    We really do miss Gattuso. You have to look back at the days he was in his prime to see the incredible work he did for Milan and the Azzurri. Palombo is not the answer unfortunately. If we don't have a great DM, Prandelli at least should drop the idea of using wingers and play a 4-5-1 (or some variation) with a bunch of good passers in the middle of the park. Spain used this at the WC, but even they had Busquets to win the ball back and give it to Xavi. Tell you what, with Prandelli's style and our lack of solidity, these games will at least not lack for excitement. :cool:
     
  10. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thank god they won. I did a fist pump when I saw they made it 2-1... wins like this can be slump busters. Let's hope the tide begins to turn!
     
  11. Matteo4Azzurri

    Sep 2, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    A bit off topic, but France is in full-on freefall mode. :eek:
     
  12. Zenga18

    Zenga18 Member

    Dec 11, 2005
    If only your hero was coaching, he would of left the useless Cassano at home and we would've lost to Estonia.
     
  13. TFC17

    TFC17 Member

    Mar 20, 2009
    Anyone know why players like Cigarini and Rossi weren't on the bench today? I'm guessing Prandelli was opting for more defensive subs, just to hold a lead when we got it... hopefully we see those two feature vs the Faroe Islands though.
     
  14. Canadian Azzurri

    Nov 14, 2006
    Canada
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    For Ciga I imagine it's because he was a late addition to the squad, maybe, with the injury to Marchisio.
     
  15. rizzuto123

    rizzuto123 Member

    May 3, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    its been a long time since I have seen Italy play football, short passes and creativity, instead of the usual cross in the box.
     
  16. tdrazz

    tdrazz Member

    Feb 14, 2005
    Falc with Molinaro he did hes job well...to say that hes not international material not right,he was the best defender on the field IMO
     
  17. asbari1908

    asbari1908 Member

    Dec 18, 2008
    BARI
    Club:
    AS Bari
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Anyone would've picked the same team as Lippi, there just aren't any other options in Italy....blah blah blah :rolleyes:
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  18. ronaldo99

    ronaldo99 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Not really. It was a similar story in 2006, we lost our opening friendly to Iceland, and then struggled to beat Norway and Moldova.

    It takes time to build a team.
     
  19. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cazzo vuoi??

    I gave no 'opinion', I just stated the obvious. Palombo is most definitely not a 'destroyer' kind of midfielder. No wonder Di Carlo has been benching Poli in favor of Dessena, even before the youngster got injured.

    And Antonelli, who last I checked is not a Sampdoria player, is a left back who until a week ago was Castellini's (I repeat, Castellini's) reserve.
     
  20. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    How about a central midfield of Pirlo, De Rossi and Brighi?
     
  21. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Palombo isn't a destroyer in the Gattuso mould and he isn't a playmaker in the Pirlo mould. He has a bit of both players but not as good. He did score more goals when Novellino was coachin Sampdoria though.

    Ambrosini's time with Italy is gone. I don't know about Nocerino's form but I'd rather give him a chance than see Ambro back in the Italy fold.

    I agree on Pepe. Once he was taken off, the goals came. He can run but his lack of technique makes it clear that he is out of his depth for Italy.
     
  22. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I agree it takes time to gel however the quality clearly isn't was what it was even in 2006. Guys like Bonucci, Molinaro, Montolivo, Pepe and even Pazzini would have no chance to start back then; now, for the most part these guys are our first choice. It's not even debatable.
     
  23. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Indeed. But who has debated it? As usual I think that you are arguing with shadows.
     
  24. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    What is silly about the whole Pepe bashing is that the logic is come va Pepe, va la nazionale. Some of you are like a pack of hyenas that pick a prey and go after it, ignoring everything else. He is just a role player and as Gumba has pointed out, we have too many roles players right now. We lack fuoriclasse.

    Pepe was not the problem. He was not impressive but he was not the reason we looked ordinary. This argument that the game changed once he was substituted is absurd. We scored on the corner kick at the substitution. He was on the pitch when that corner was earned and it was on his side. Can't recall how it came about. We then scored 3 minutes later on another corner kick. But it was not as if there was an improvement in our play afterwards despite the fact that with a lead, things should have opened up for us.

    This is not about crucifying or defending Pepe. The real issue is that we have players who should be picking up the load but are not getting the job done. Did anyone read Prandelli's comment that the team went into the locker room without any confidence? Instead of focusing on a bit player like Pepe, we should be asking ourselves why Montolivo and De Rossi are not inserting themselves into the match. Even Cassano. Pirlo was the only player who wanted the ball. Yes, that is his role but we have too many players that only seem to get involved if the ball comes in their direction. Between Pirlo, Cassano, De Rossi and Montolivo, we should have seen a lot of possession and movement. It was not there. And these are the guys who had to carry the team yesterday, not Pepe. So until our "star" players become protagonists for our team, our roles players are going to look even less ordinary than what they already are.
     
  25. Iaquinta

    Iaquinta Member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I do not think Montolivo was used properly in yesterdays game. Playing on the right in a 4-3-3 next to Pirlo certainly raised several eyebrows before the game even started. I agree that De Rossi tends to fade in and out of games for Italy, but he has put in world class performances against top level teams in Italy and abroad in Europe so that can change. The Pepe hate is justified and rational in my opinion, he runs and works hard but cannot cross, pass or finish. That guy is nothing more than filler until a true winger comes through and replaces him. I appreciate his work ethic and attitude but he is really not that good. I would like to see more of D'Agostino in the future, his numbers are more impressive than Montolivo's.
     

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