Not really, no. Vaccines function by using less dangerous forms of a virus to activate the body's immune system against that virus. The charges against vaccines, which evidence seems to indicate are unfounded, have nothing to do with that basic property; rather they have to do with the purported effect of extraneous ingredients, like mercury. (As has been pointed out already, the one study along these lines that keyed the theories regarding autism has been widely and solidly debunked, subsequent conspiracy theories notwithstanding.) To my knowledge, nobody's suggested that the normal processes of vaccines have any cumulative deleterious effect on the immune system. In fact, the opposite seems to be the case. Overuse/misuse of antibiotics may have some impact on the immune systems of children subjected to it. I have heard of studies that compare the children living on US farms, where antibiotics and disinfectants are widely used, to those living on European farms (where standard soap and water is more the norm), and the children on the European farms have more robust immunity. But my understanding is that the main problem being caused by overuse of antibiotics (the chief culprits here are the corporate farms) is that it selects for increasingly hardy varieties of dangerous strains of bacteria.
This is almost totally correct. Corporate farming obviously causes problems, but most of the problems related to overuse of antibiotics lie at our feet: patients who cease taking the antibiotic before they've completed the course, thus allowing the hardier bacteria to live; pharmacies that dispense antibiotics without a prescription (this is a problem overseas more than in the US); doctors who prescribe antibiotics when they're not necessary, to assuage concerned patient and parents; and doctors who prescribe the wrong antibiotic on the basis of misdiagnosis of infection.
whats wrong with using disinfectamt instead of soap and water? Are we taling about household disinfectants like pine o clean or glen 20?
I've read studies suggesting that we follow doctors' orders wrt things like a simple 10 day course of antibiotics roughly 50 percent of the time (this includes things like mis-timed doses, missed doses, taken with food when it should have been without, etc.). So I'm not surprised we have a big effect, but I am surprised to hear it's even bigger than the impact made by corporate use of antibiotics.
Incidentally, my wife (who's a special ed teacher) and I watched the HBO feature on Temple Grandin. My wife took a couple of her students to see Grandin speak and thought Danes did a great job portraying her, as did Grandin, apparently. It sheds absolutely no light on the vaccine issue, however.
Clearly a lack of scientific rigour on your part I'd say Am I right in thinking that there might be dangers to the children of those of us who HAVE given them the MMR jab from a reduction in 'herd immunity'? If that isn't the case I can't really see the problem, tbh. Eventually all the dozy bastards that don't want to receive immunity from vaccinations will die out and the rest of us will be fine ... and a lot smarter as an average http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=1771 Millions of people have been tested and there's no evidence... apart from anecdotal evidence of people who spend too much time standing around coffee machines and some fella who was clearly on the make. ... and WHY are we even still discussing this?
Getting old is fine, just don't try to have kids when you get there. A women is born with all the eggs she will ever have. Just like chicken eggs, there is a "shelf life" with these things. By the time you're 40, the eggs are reaching the end of that shelf life. If you shouldn't use old eggs to make a souffle, you certainly shouldn't be using them to create life.
The proposed draft criteria for the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) were posted yesterday. Among many suggested changes are the elimination of the seperate diagnostic categories of Autism, Asperger, Childhood Disintegrative Disorder, and Pervasive Developmental Disorder, in favor of the diagnostic category of Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Is it so far-fetched when we have so many testimonies of parents who can pin-point the precise time that their child began having seizures, dissociation, eating dirt, or other typical symptoms of autism - those few hours or days immediately following a vaccination? Furthermore many of these parents have evidence - video and other - that their child was normal before these vaccinations. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQYISvsgq6s"]YouTube- Part 1: Mercury Toxicity & Autism[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM&feature=related"]YouTube- How Mercury Kills the Brain ~ Autism[/ame] I realize that this must be difficult for you to imagine, as you have likely been indoctrinated since your grade school days that Jonas Salk was the savior of humankind; but has it ever occurred to you that perhaps vaccines are not responsible for the decrease in the incidence of polio and other infectious diseases? (The fact that people no longer had to bathe in the same water that that livestock and other animals defecated in might have had some effect on the spread of these diseases, don't you think? Or perhaps the fact that people started having access to a variety of vegetables and nutrients that they hadn't had before?) In fact, polio was at a very precipitous decline and all but disappeared before mass polio vaccination programs began. Furthermore, the Sabin vaccine, a live virus vaccine, actually caused the rates of polio to INCREASE. Show me the literature that proves that the benefits of vaccination outweigh their risks, which are considerable. For instance here is a partial list for the Hepatitis B vaccine that I found on one website (and of course the long-term effects are not adequately mentioned): Of course the above list are merely those that the pharmaceutical companies are forced to admit to; and we can be fairly sure that there are some that are not mentioned. Notice especially the list of nervous system and immunologic disorders. Several of these are fatal. Are these risks ones worth taking? Besides, many doctors are not fully convinced about the efficacy of vaccines.
Recent study on autistic kids found that nearly all the ones studied don't have the ability to excrete mercury and other toxic metals. Predictably, however, the medical establishment claims that the mercury compound called thimerosal cannot be responsible as the hair analysis doesn't indicate a high mercury level. But of course, the test itself is not a reliable indicator, if the subject has trouble excreting the mercury - so much so that it wouldn't show up in the hair analysis. So, if 4 kids have autism, this doesn't support the notion that mercury didn't cause it. Rather, it supports the notion that they all might have a genetic trait that doesn't enable them to excrete the mercury efficiently. But exposing autistic children to chelating agents that help them excrete the mercury, aluminum and other toxins have resulted in many of them no longer being classified as autistic. I heard of a case of a medical doctor and his wife who went through divorce proceedings, because the doctor didn't want his now autistic child vaccinated, while his wife did. The wife got the child vaccinated anyway, and the child became autistic. The child underwent chelation therapy and began speaking again.
According to the pharmaceutical companies and their cronies in the CDC and FDA? One out of every six children has an Autism Spectrum Disorder. What are the symptoms of mercury toxicity? Yes, they are identical to what we ascribe as "autism". The FDA has said that newborns can process no more than 4 mcg of mercury per day. But how much is in a typical vaccine? 12 to 25 mcg! and how many doses do they get in a single day? Also, think about this: the FDA and CDC have made the following argument: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/thimerosal/thimerosal_faqs.html Did you catch the careful wording? Obviously, this press release was worded after consultation with attorneys. Thimerosal is Elly Lilly's patented trademark for their mercury compound that has been used by many of the vaccine manufacturers. It is not the only mercury compound that exists (just as there are many trademarks for aspartame). The CDC has never stated that all mercury compounds have been eliminated, only that thimerosal "was taken out." now, what used to be known as thimerosal could very well be marketed under a different name, or a similar mercury compound can be made by another manufacturer. Also consider that the thimerosal is a preservative that was used to slow down the rotting of the pathogens contained in the vaccines. Did the CDC ever state what is now being used instead as a preservative? If not, isn't it likely that they are being deceptive by using this kind of language? Let me illustrate by just replacing a few words in their press release to show an imaginary absurd statement: notice how no mention of Nutrasweet or Splenda are needed to 'convince' the reader of the safety of Sweet-and-Low, because they have conveniently avoided saying the taboo-word 'aspartame'.
Your knowledge seems to be woefully lacking. The vaccine manufacturers themselves list several immunological disorders as possible side-effects of vaccines. Also, some disorders classified under other categories, such as myletis, are often also fundamentally immunological in nature. To illustrate, squalene-based adjuvants, known by names such as 'AS03', have been shown to cause immune dysfunction in some subjects, as their bodies develop an immune response against squalene and this immune response can even occur against one's own natively-produced squalene. As the myelin sheath around the nerves are composed in part by squalene, the demyelination can cause nervous system disorders such as Guillain Barre Syndrome. On a slightly different note, check out this 60 minutes special about all the problems with the 1976 Swine Flu virus: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-UlMAXYFyM"]YouTube- 1976: Pentagon Swine Flu (1 of 2)[/ame]
1 in 6, you said. By that measure, you're talking about 12 million of the 75 million or so kids in the US right now. At that rate, it would be such a tremendous epidemic that everyone would know dozens of kids on the spectrum, and that half our schools resources would need to be applied to the problem. It's obvious you're dealing in aggressive hyperbole. In fact, you're dealing in the type of hyperbole and fearmongering that have created the backlash against autism activists that we're beginning to see. The truth is, that people like you are going to hurt your cause in the long run, because you're always spouting the Big Lie where the numbers keep going up and up beyond what any reasonable person can see, and the definitions keep getting re-written to include as many people as possible. I'm not buying it.
footballchic - give it a rest. The doctor who did all of the studies, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, has already admitted they were faked. http://www.parentdish.com/2009/02/11/doctor-who-linked-autism-and-vaccines-faked-data/ In May 2010 he had his license revoked. There is no credible evidence linking vaccines and autism. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38886645/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/
You're claiming that one doctor did "all of these studies"? how deluded is that? How convenient that the weight of your whole argument depends solely on one doctor's study! Did you manage to watch the above youtube video with Dr. Boyd Haley? He has also done careful studies, and he hasn't been found to fake any data. Also, as I mentioned there are hundreds of testimonies and case studies that showed the autism-vaccination link, specifically those having to do with the MMR vaccine, which Bush ordered sealed. This suggests consciousness of guilt at least. And in case you missed it the first time, read that list again of the side-effects that the pharmaceutical companies warn about in their own vaccine package inserts. Autism isn't the end of the story at all!
the problem is that the parents of autistic children are not defining the distinctions and making the classifications of what constitutes Autism Spectrum Disorder. In one of the posts above, I linked a study conducted at the University of Calgary that shows mercury killing neurons as seen through a microscope. And yet, you are claiming that there is no link between autism and mercury? Again, to reiterate what I've aluded to above, if there is no credible autism-mercury link, then why is it that when mercury is removed from the body through chelating agents, autistic children become normal again? Why?
Dr. Boyd Haley's data has not been proven fake. However, no one has been able to reproduce his findings which should tell you something. US Public Health Services and the ADA have studied and rejected his claims. First, this hasn't been proven to work. Second, and more importantly, Haley and his cronies have taken an industrial chemical and called it a "supplement" and are giving it to kids. This should be criminal. He's a fraud trying to dope people out of money. Every time he's asked for his studies, he simply quits communicating with those who ask for it. The FDA has asked for proof this stuff works and is safe and he fails to provide it. Don't you realize that every time you spread this bullshit you are endangering children?
More news: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20837594 prenatal and early-life exposure to ethylmercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines and immunoglobulin preparations was not related to increased risk of ASDs. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22542677/ Autism cases in California continued to climb even after a mercury-based vaccine preservative that some people blame for the neurological disorder was removed from routine childhood shots