Pre/In/Post Houston Dynamo v. Chicago Fire Aug. 21

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. FCLouie

    FCLouie Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, he's missed some goals this year. Ching has always missed a larger number of easy shots, at least larger compared to other forward who are considered to carry their teams. What's always gotten him through was the quantity of quality crosses. These days he just isn't seeing the number of crosses required to get into the rhythm needed to get the job done. Ashe and Cruz just aren't getting it done for him.

    He's ice cold, and with what little service he's been getting, he isn't going to warm up anytime soon.
     
  2. freshpow21

    freshpow21 Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo

    I guess where that concerns me is with the rest of his game. Is Ching only good at headers in the box? Is that all he's good for? If so...I think the problem is much deeper than service. His passing has been poor lately as well. We need more from Ching than headers.
     
  3. FCLouie

    FCLouie Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh no no no. Not just his head, he's been as good with his feet as he is with his head but that doesn't change the fact that when he scores it's a first or second touch. That come from the wings, not himself (or for that matter a central mid).

    Holding and passing is actually a separate part of his game. Sometimes he's setting up another player, sometimes it's the give part of a give and go to the goal. One of the problems he's had there is defenses practically caving in on him because they don't feel the need to cover wings and an AM and a wing back or two. He's the focal point of the team and he's been the one that's paid the highest price for the lack of impact from other players.

    Or maybe the other way around. Who can really tell.
     
  4. freshpow21

    freshpow21 Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I'll give you that one. The man gets collapsed on pretty much as soon as he receives the ball. Like in the Rocket's glory days...Hakeem receives the ball in the post and gets triple teamed. He better make some magic and if he can't Mario Elie or Robert Horry better bury the three.

    His teammates need to score and he will won't be pressured as much. Yeah?:)
     
  5. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh yeah right, thanks. ching is the problem this year and not corey " i have only learned to use one foot, always turn the ball over, only have one predictable move, if i wasn't speedy i would never be in this league" ashe and danny " the crowd favorite because i have gumption but no calmness on the ball and fall for every deke a player throws at me" cruz.
    is ching perfect? no. has ching lost a step? yes. is he vastly superior to the sub par players (cruz is treding upwards imop, and will be sub par for only a short time) that we have on our wings? yes.
    if i were to collect video and post here the amount of turnovers from ashe and uncontrolled over runs by cruz, we would have to add many more pages. i understand the frustration with the team and its results, but chings performance is about 100th down on the list of problems this team has. can't believe there are those that are ready to bypass other players short comings and then pounce on ching, but i suppose he has the largest target on his back. i guess it was dan marino's fault all those years the dolphins never won, or barry sanders mistakes that kept the lions out of the win collumn as well?
     
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  6. brahmafutbol

    brahmafutbol Member+

    Jan 29, 2006
    East Bernard, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope the team prints up the Chicago pregame thread and posts it in the locker room. It should make them furious. There's no reason we should lose to those guys, we have talent. Regardless of results and what people on these threads keep posting.
     
  7. brahmafutbol

    brahmafutbol Member+

    Jan 29, 2006
    East Bernard, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Edit... by "Chicago pre game thread" I meant the one on their boards. I'm not thinking too clearly today. Going back to work doesn't agree with me. :(
     
  8. Somas of Columbus

    Somas of Columbus New Member

    Jan 22, 2008
    Washington DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    is this game being streamed anywhere?
     
  9. radmonkey

    radmonkey Member

    Oct 27, 2007
    And that......is why you punch the ball sometimes.
     
  10. ViscaFCB

    ViscaFCB New Member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Austin
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn, I'm so happy right now...
     
  11. ViscaFCB

    ViscaFCB New Member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Austin
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By the way most games (of all sports) are streamed on channel surfing . net
     
  12. ViscaFCB

    ViscaFCB New Member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Austin
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    never mind
     
  13. jdiris

    jdiris Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    North Carolina
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah, you tempted the fates and got lucky in the end.
     
  14. BayVol

    BayVol Member

    Jun 30, 2002
    Clearwater, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3 points. Congrats, but D remains a problem.
     
  15. ViscaFCB

    ViscaFCB New Member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Austin
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup, never saw that coming from Ching...
     
  16. TX Bill

    TX Bill Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    Sugar Land TX
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone want to tell me what our "Goals Against per Match" average is? I'm too lazy to look it up but something tells me it's off the charts.

    Poor.
     
  17. BayVol

    BayVol Member

    Jun 30, 2002
    Clearwater, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    33 goals in 21 games
     
  18. salsa_caliente

    salsa_caliente New Member

    Nov 11, 2009
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So we gave up three goals in one half and nearly gave this one away, but honestly, I don't even care.

    Brian Ching wasn't going to let us lose tonight. Cameron was a beast. I'll wait for our team to get better and more cohesive, but right now I'm going to enjoy games like this. We thoroughly dominated and deserved to win in the end.

    (although, it is telling that when our D gets better our attack becomes shambolic, but when our attack is on, where is our defense?)
     
  19. freshpow21

    freshpow21 Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Whew...maybe I should criticize Ching more. LOL....hey..it was nice to see Ching do exactly what he used to be known for...carrying the team...being a leader.

    Credit to the whole team for holding possession. The passing was improved. Yeah...the D is a concern...but I'll take the positive. The attack was there for once. Nice stuff!!!
     
  20. KRAZYKAT

    KRAZYKAT Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    South Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess you shot your mouth too fast 7seven7....never lose faith my friend..!! anyway, I thought the defense was much better tonight..still BB screw up one own goal.. Go Dynamo !! :D
     
  21. TomClare

    TomClare Member

    Aug 25, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well, I think that the fans well and truly got their moneys worth tonight - even if there were a few palpitations! How to turn a comfortable win into a near suicidal loss - but credit the guys - they were determined to come out on top. Sad defending for all three of Fire's goals - our main problem all year. Ching was immense but for me, my man of the match would have to be Geoff Cameron - he was immense and this kid is so talented, wherever he plays.

    Dynamo's performance this evening gave me a lot of optimism and for once we created so much. Did Kevin stott make a mistake with Conde? The announcer said that he'd been given a yellow card late in the second half (and just before he equalised) and I'm sure that he had received another one earlier in the game.

    Let's hope that this win spurs us on to better results in the run in to the end of the season.
     
  22. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Another match that sort of mirrors the season.

    I take a mixed bag away from this. Before you start with the "there goes Downside Cosmo again", I don't go off the deep-end when we lose like the last two weeks.

    1) Great way to get the full three points out of the game. But to be up 2-0 & 3-1 in the second half and let a team playing their second intense league game in 4 days come back to tie it on the road is not good. I have no idea what the problem is but for some reason this squad just cannot lock down a game. Just can't do it right now.

    2) Ching showed that on some nights when he brings it and gets the chances, he can finish them as well as anyone else in MLS. A skill the USMNT may have been able to use in South Africa. First one was a gift, next two were great.

    3) We still have a big hill to climb to get back in the playoff race. Results like SJ beating LA don't help. Looking at the teams in front of us and the games in hand . . . I almost think we need to win the next two weeks at Colorado and vs. San Jose to really say we are back in the race.
     
  23. Naranja Trooper

    Nov 10, 2008
    . Loved being rights... I win too! Don't loose hope...
     
  24. ViscaFCB

    ViscaFCB New Member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Austin
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Off topic: God knows I suffered with our forward's lack of finishing down in South Africa. No doubt Ching would have been a great addition. Good to see his work pay off today. He seemed tense lately...
     
  25. Fiorentina lives!

    May 5, 2004
    Three words: About frickin' time.

    Couldn't watch the match since I work retail... on tax free weekend so of course it was madness.

    Just saw the highlights. Loved the strategy play on the 2nd goal/set piece; Fire got pwned. Loved Ching's bicycle goal even more. Goal of the week candidate. Ching is back!

    Is it me, or did Onstad looked shaky in the 1st Fire goal?
     

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