From the people I know who have both adizero and VI, they say the adizero crushes the VI. A lot of people complain about the VI being stiff and never becoming less stiff. I think you're a lot better off getting the other material of adizero, or just waiting till you can get SFIIs.
I have both the adizeros and vapor vi. To me, the vapor vi is way better. And I have both the synthetic and leather adizero. But the leather adizero is comfortable.
jorma...your custom superflys are awesome! im so jealous, i wish i could afford that. i have adizeros and i must say i love them, but i will always have a special place in my heart for superflys, hoping to get a pair soon!
yeah my vapors are sitting in the closet. i miss my superfly I platinum, best boot I've had. So my three main boots I'm wearing in this order are, adizero leather, CTR, wave ignitus
That's a pretty big compliment to the superflys considering your enormous collection! What are your favorite vapors/superflys of all time?
I should hope so, the vapors are £60 more than adizero's, you shouldn't compare 2 boots with a £60 price difference
Thats not true at all. Both shoes are directly made to compete with each other. Nike just happens to have a higher price
yes they are, but when one is £60 more than another you should expect one to be far superior to the other no?
But you cannot compare things with a big price difference, it's like people comparing the superfly's to the adizero, the SF is more than double the price.
yes you can? Price doesn't determine the category. Superflies are Nike's top speed boot and Adizeros are Adidas' top speed boot. Comparing them is exactly what you should do!
your sponsored by Nike! I didn't know that! Nice! id be intrested too. I do like the light blue and black colourway of those vapor 1's and even so in the new superfly design; maybe because Ronaldo wore them in 02 for madrid.
The easiest comparison is to compare along the lines of intended purpose, not price. Price(especially in an industry that has few large competitors) is not a very efficient way of comparing anything. You have to compare the Adizero's to SuperFly's because they are the main competition for each other. Adidas doesn't see the value in putting out a $400 boot....yet.
CORRECTION: adizero primes...i understand they arent out yet but when they are, they will be primes and superflies in comparison and adizeros and vapors
Will be...but it's hard to compare now. What if the SuperFly III is out for $500 next December 2011 and the Prime is $300? It's comparing a 2010 Ferrari to a 2012 concept car that's isn't out yet(no set price, scarce details, doesn't account for Ferrari's ability to improve the product by 2012). The point is you can only compare what's out at the same point in time in the same category. Right now, it's the SuperFly vs. Adizero. Nike doesn't compete on price, they actually try very hard to set the price for the market because they have that kind of pull. Many people buy based on the misconception that higher prices = higher quality, and could really care less to be bothered to compare the features. Again, price is the worst comparison tool.
Your logic frustrates me because it is not true... it is stubborn. I tried to think of examples for you. Here are a couple. It is like comparing a Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. Now if we use your logic then the Playstation 3 is better because it is more expensive. But the Xbox and the Playstation are very good gaming consoles and are virtually equal. Maybe you're not much of a gamer and you do not understand.... I will give you another example. It is like comparing a Mac and a PC. In your logic the Mac is better because it is more expensive. A lot more people prefer the PC because it is very versatile and allows more freedom. I will give you one more example. It is like saying that Evian water is better than Aqua Fina because Evian is more expensive, therefore it is the better water. (lol) My point is that Nike manufactures their boots for a really low price and they over price their Superfly's because they have a large amount of loyal customers, enough endorses from superstar footballers (such as Cristiano Ronaldo) and brilliant marketing that lures people to shell out $400 bucks for a pair of Superflys that really only cost around $30 bucks to make.
Wrong For Example you only need to look at what football boots cost stores. Adizero cost us $110 (although my store gets a better discount from Adidas) Therefor its safe to conclude that the shoe cost maybe between 45 and 55 dollars to make. Superflys cost $220. Also, I overheard from a couple of nike employees I was working with at Dallas Cup this year that even if nike sells every Superfly the make in the US (in the launch purple color) the company would only make $6000 profit. Carbon fibre is a super expensive material to use. On top of that Nike outsources the making of the materials for the superflys. (Pirex for carbon fibre i think? and Teijin is actually the name of a Japanese company that makes sythetics). This of course increase the price. Most companies will invent a material and then "shop" it to different companies. For example the Concave reps told me that Mizuno beat them to the punch when a company called Kuraray invented a new sythetic material. (which of course was the source material for the Wave Ghost 3) Anyways wayyyyyyyyyyy off topic and I could go on but please more pics!!
Say it cost Nike $200 to make the shoe....VERY HIGHLY UNLIKELY...but this is just my point about that $6000 profit statement. $220 - $200 = $20 and $6,000/$20 is 300. I'm quite positive they've sold more than 300 pairs in the US. Even if we use a lower number for cost that's more realistic, that just shrinks the production number. They might cost your store $220 but they didn't just make $6,000 on all the pairs sold...that's just someone misinformed talking. Carbon fiber in the amounts use on the soleplate is neither expensive to produce or use. They outsource the production to Asia to reduce cost. I'm not attacking your knowledge but merely your position on it. There's a different in the actual production cost and the cost contributed to a boot. Just because they charge you $220 on a boot doesn't mean much in terms of production cost. They know demand is high for these boots and your store will have to pay a premium to bring in these consumers. Nike made a local store in Washington carry a TON of Vapor VI's(purple/orange) in order to even have a chance to get a handful of the WC Elite's. When your the middle-man, you're at the mercy of both your distributors/supplier's cost structure and your customer's wants/needs. But yeah, back to pictures.