News: Revs News, 7/29: Revolution sorely lacking

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by bwidell, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is why a reporter doesn't rely on the officials sources for all the news. If the Rev front office isn't talking, there are other people who might have info. (Scouts, agents, other teams)
     
  2. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately, Frank parrots the MLS party line that the SuperLiga is a competition involving the best teams from MLS and Mexico. In actual fact, the best teams in those leagues participate in the Champions League. SuperLiga involves second rate teams from those leagues.
     
  3. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Second rate teams from MLS, and then non-first rate teams from the Mexican league that actually accept the invite.
     
  4. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well in fairness, so is the Europa League. Second rate does not necessarily equate to bad.
     
  5. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not the point. The point is honesty in advertising. The Europa League is honest enough not to bill itself as involving the best teams in Europe.
     
  6. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think the tournament is billing itself as such.
     
  7. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps, but the Revs broadcast team (half of which is part of the Revs' FO) is doing so as is the most high profile daily covering the team.

    I know that honesty, straight forwardness and treating the fans as not-complete idiots aren't exactly hallmarks of MLS behavior, but one can certainly push for those things.
     
  8. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See I disagree because I've watched the Revs' superliga matches and neither Brad nor Jay have once said "top teams in Mexico" that I remember. If they have, they're lying. It's the Europa league of North America, end of.
     
  9. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teams.......... DP.........SSS..........Sponsor
    Chivas USA....No.......... Y..............Yes
    Chicago..........3............Y..............Yes
    Colorado.........N............Y...............No
    Columbus........2............Y...............Yes
    DC United.......2............N...............Yes
    Dallas............Y............Y................No
    Houston.........1..........2012..............Yes
    KC.................Y......Construction.......No
    LA................2.............Y................Yes
    NE................N............N..................No
    NY................2.............Y................Yes
    Philly............N..............Y................No
    RSL..............N.............Y................Yes
    SJ................N.....Close to approval....No
    Seattle.........3..............N.................Yes
    Toronto.........1.............Y.................Yes

    Pretty sure this is close, feel free to correct it if its not
    Number of DP’s = past and present
    Only SJ and NE are lacking in these departments
     
  10. kazakal28

    kazakal28 Member

    Feb 22, 2008
    Weymouth
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    SJ....


    [​IMG]
     
  11. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks about right. Didn't SJ have a decent attacking mid they got from a team in the Championship in 2009? He didn't work out apparently but that's higher quality than anyone the Revs have acquired recently.
     
  12. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm quite sure Brad said it before the last game.

    Also, it's not the Europa League of North America. If it were, it would involve teams from all the countries of CONCACAF and all teams would have home games.
     
  13. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hello!! how the hell do you forget that!!
     
  14. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    If that's what goes for a shirt sponsor (or Herba-whatever), I'd rather have none. I know enough about Amway to know that I wouldn't want to be associated with them.
     
  15. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it's easy to be all sanctimonious about how lame it is to be taking money from the Herbalists or Amway or some sugar-infested energy drink, but the thing is those companies are giving money to the clubs. A substantial amount. And the clubs are doing things with that money like advertising, marketing, hiring front-office staff, or even scouts who go out and evaluate potential players the club might consider signing.

    Something we never seem to have the budget for because, well, y'see, we run a tight ship around here with no waste and a lean operation. After all, Bobby-the-K is, in fact a savvy businessman, an ye kin nae dispuute thet, Jimmeh !
     
  16. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Some sponsor ideas:

    e-harmony - because we're always looking for the right one.
    BP - They embody our foresight in dealing with problems in a timely way.
    Building 19 - Good stuff...cheap!
    TarpsOnline.com - self-explanatory, or along the same lines...
    halfempty.com

    Anyone else want to take a crack at this?
     
  17. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Carpenters local 275 - Measure 9 times cut once!
     
  18. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kool-Aid

    (too easy)
     
  19. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Darren Huckerby? He was pretty talented and definitely made an impact when on the field, but he was constantly battling to stay healthy.
     
  20. Alan

    Alan Titanium Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd take it over Amway any day ...

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Beez

    Beez Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    How recent a phenomenon is this, Monty? I didn't get any sense of it when I was covering the team in the early and middle parts of the last decade, and on at least a couple of occasions (when they tanked an Open Cup match in Ludlow, and when they gave up the CONCACAF home game vs Alajuelense) I wrote some scathing stuff about the front office. Maybe I wasn't with a big-enough paper to bother them, but I never felt like they were cutting me off from anything. But perhaps a lot has changed in 4-5 years.
     
  22. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've heard these stories for a while now. It's not a new phenomenon. I can't get into more details than that, because I really don't want to reveal who made these comments.
     
  23. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    get rid of the two hammers and add a tape measure and saw and that would be a winner
     
  24. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah - Huckerby, thanks. I remember the start of 2009 everyone was scared to death about going out to San Ho and people were predicting Huckerby would singlehandedly destroy the Revs. He didn't and SJ turned into this season's Revs as far as results but at least they made the effort of getting a guy (even if he's EJ healthwise, they didn't resign him THIS year) who had plied his trade in a halfway decent league. THAT is effort. More Perovic's please.
     
  25. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have heard a few things about the FO as well. went as far as some agents will just not point their players to the Revs, they would rather just not deal with them
     

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