Get with the EPL program(ming)

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by Crammers, Jul 31, 2010.

  1. Crammers

    Crammers Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    West Palm Beach, FL
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Why can't Fox/ESPN step up to the plate and show every EPL game live.

    The technology is there. It infuriates me that friends of mine elsewhere in the world get to choose anyone of the EPL games live and I have to put up with delayed transmissons, no coverage at all or crappy internet streams.

    We pay a small fortune to watch our teams live, stop scrimping on the coverage Fox.
     
  2. blackhornet

    blackhornet Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you mean like what they do with the Champions League during the group stage?

    I suppose DirecTV would need to sign up for that. But it would be awesome to have an EPL "Saturday Ticket"

    I suspect it's all about the money.
     
  3. FallOfFingolfin

    Mar 5, 2009
    Illinois
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except in the actual UK, where they get like three live matches a week.
     
  4. Dave141

    Dave141 Member

    Jun 9, 2003
    Washington, NJ
    They had that, like, 5 years ago. It was an EPL pay-per-view season package.

    It cost something like $300 for the season. Pardon me for saying so, but I think the way it is now is much more cost-effective.
     
  5. adkinsjm

    adkinsjm Member

    Apr 9, 2005
    The PPV package showed less games than Setanta.
     
  6. 7spencer7

    7spencer7 Member

    Mar 25, 2008
    Outside Boston
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that there were only 1 or 2 games per week that were available pay per view and when Setanta started they aired those games instead. We get more EPL games today than we did then. There just isn't enough interest to justify the costs/bandwidth.
     
  7. huhe888

    huhe888 Red Card

    Oct 3, 2007
    In markets such as Hong Kong, Singapore, and Thailand, EPL video rights are sold by the FAPL on a platform-exclusive basis, meaning one must subscribe to a particular pay TV service in order to watch EPL matches.

    Due to platform exclusivity, the pay TV service can air all matches live without having to cut deals with other pay TV platforms.

    (Example: in Hong Kong, if you want to watch EPL, you MUST subscribe to iCable. If you have the other service [NowTV], you are completely shut out.)

    In the U.S., because only platform FSI controls is foxsoccer.tv, FSI cannot air all EPL matches live without having to cut deals with other providers.

    (In the case of UEFA Champions League, FSI has a deal with DirecTV to sublicense 4th-5th picks during the playoff round and 4th-8th picks during the group stage. FSI keeps 1st-3rd picks for FSN regional networks, FSC, FS+, or FSE/FOX Deportes.)

    What we have learned over the years: when lawyers (and greed) get in the way of technology, the lawyers always win.
     
  8. blackhornet

    blackhornet Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    why couldn't we have both? would be another source of revenue for Fox

    I assume the answer is money.
     
  9. JCUnited

    JCUnited Member

    Oct 7, 2002
    South Bend, IN
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Not sure how you define small fortune, but I just signed up for the Comcast Sports Entertainment Package for only eight bucks per month, getting Fox Soccer and GolTV.

    I had DirecTV last year and got FSC, GolTV, and Fox Plus for about thirty bucks a month.

    It might be more than peanuts, but it's not a small fortune either.
     
  10. adkinsjm

    adkinsjm Member

    Apr 9, 2005
    PPV wouldn't work since FOX needs matches FSC and FS+. PPV of the last-choice matches wouldn't sell.
     
  11. blackhornet

    blackhornet Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but you don't have to order FS+ on DirecTV - so the true comparison is $8 for FSC and GolTV on Comcast vs $13 on DirecTV. $5 a month, $60 a year.
     
  12. blackhornet

    blackhornet Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    some would on the basis of those who would pay the premium to see their second tier team play live. This is why I said it must be because the money - the cost of setting up the infrastructure would be more than what Fox/DirecTV is willing to spend for the return of whoever would buy. It would mean less available PPV movie slots and less viewers for the first-run matches that would show delayed on FSC and FS+ later in the day.
     
  13. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Can't you watch all additional Premier League matches on Foxsoccer.tv (Saturday 3pm UK kick-offs)? I think their stream looks fine. I still have FSC via cable but not Plus and the online subscription gives me access to a lot.
     
  14. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    That's how it was at the end of last season. foxsoccer.tv is a much better service than FS+.
     
  15. Crammers

    Crammers Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    West Palm Beach, FL
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Didn't know about that, wonder how long it'll be before their schedule comes out.
     
  16. Crammers

    Crammers Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    West Palm Beach, FL
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They normally get 2 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday, 1 on Monday night.

    The remaining 5 can't be shown in the UK, they have rules about live Saturday 3pm kickoffs to protect the attendances of the lower league clubs.
     
  17. 7spencer7

    7spencer7 Member

    Mar 25, 2008
    Outside Boston
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The monday night games are nowhere near regular, at least in the past. And a lot of times it's only 1 game on sunday. Up until 2 seasons ago one of those saturday games (usually the late one) was also PPV only for about $15 until Setanta started broadcasting the games there.
     

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