Fox Soccer Channel in HD -- on the way?

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by tambo, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what is your complaint? The 16:9 and 4:3 picture quality on FSC SD is exactly the same. The only differance is on the 16:9 picture you get to see more of the field.
     
  2. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    On Comcast I've been getting letterboxed stuff on the SD channel recently. More bizarrely (and annoyingly) the non-HD content is showing up in a boxed 4:3 format.
     
  3. stagnant

    stagnant Member

    Jul 22, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Ok, first to drop some science :D

    When a game is shot in 16:9 there are "saftey bars" that the camera operator sees that show where the edge of a 4:3 frame is, so the action should always be in that 4:3 frame. Same for graphics, thats why if you watch a game in HD the score is never totally in the top corner, but pushed in from the side. If the ball went out of that area, the camera op just messed up.

    As for stretching the FSC letterboxed image to fit my full HD tv, it looks like crap, not totally unwatachable but the lines on the field look like when you move a straight line in MS Paint... and other details get pixelated, that dosen't happen with the clean SD feed.
     
  4. R1PP

    R1PP Member

    Dec 3, 2007
    Swarthmore, PA
    This is what I meant by protected for 4x3. But still, eventually this is a silly practice. If you aren't going to compose the shot for 16x9 what is the purpose of shooting for 16x9.
     
  5. matty311

    matty311 Member

    Jul 2, 2003
    Pittsburgh
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Watching FSC in SD on an HD tv through and HDMI/DVI input is not good. Run alternate s video output from cable box to watch SD content, makes a world of difference, especially if you tweak picture settings on s vidoe input as well.
     
  6. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For a while, ESPN had these "safety bars" on the bottom of the camera, for the ticker. (I wonder if they still do.)
     
  7. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe 5-10 years on down the road, but i'm betting that a ton of people still have 4x3 SD TVs. (I'm looking primarily at college students and the elderly. College students may not have enough money to afford an HDTV, when they can just go to the bar for that big game. Also, it's real easy to have something stolen out of a dorm room. I'm betting that the elderly -generally speaking- don't really care about watching "Price is Right" in HD.)
     
  8. ovalball

    ovalball New Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Beaufort, NC,
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watch who you're talking about there, kiddo. I don't even watch The Price Is Right. I'd tell you what I do watch.....except I forget.
     
  9. apqjr

    apqjr Member

    Aug 30, 2003
    PB Gardens, FL
  10. CBusCrew12

    CBusCrew12 Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like the suspected is about to be reality. FSC HD and FS+ HD coming online right before they're most useful, VS style. If only FS+ would be moved to the sports package or something.

    They're getting blitzed by FSC HD, FS+ HD, and AMC HD questions. Hopefully they're all available very soon.
     
  11. stagnant

    stagnant Member

    Jul 22, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    I don't think for sports we will see a day where things aren't shot for 4:3... at least not for the next 10+ years then maybe 4:3 tv's will be gone enought to move on. You might see things shot a bit tighter but really it's not a ton of space to expand to on the sides so to keep the key things in the 4:3 frame isn't that big of a deal.

    With that said what FSC is doing right now could be the future for people with 4:3 tv's.
     
  12. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Really?? I mean there are TV shows that are 16:9 and are fit to work on 4:3 like True Blood, entourage... etc. I disagree there.
     
  13. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    FSC HD was just added to Time Warner Cable in Dallas.
     
  14. denverbrian

    denverbrian New Member

    Apr 20, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    From DirecTV Twitter today:
    "Update on Fox Soccer HD: Launch date not finalized but we expect it in time for the EPL season. "

    Also posted today: "We expect to have news on FS+ soon."
     
  15. Cantona

    Cantona Member

    Jul 12, 1999
    Texas/Luton/Manc
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    hmmm....

    i wonder why they cant confirm the channel im paying $14.99 per month for (FS+) is going HD... im getting tired of the Sky Sports reruns from FSC...

    i would love to hear they are moving this out of a la carte and into the sports package..

    seems like another crazy pre-season for league rights and channel distribution..

    Cantona---
     
  16. Epikoinos

    Epikoinos Soccer player-coach-manager-journalist

    Arsenal, Real Salt Lake, Forward Madison
    United States
    Jan 6, 2004
    Oregon, WI
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also tweeted this a little bit ago

    @DIRECTV: In addition to adding FOX Soccer Channel HD, we’re working to add live matches in HD on Fox Soccer Plus.
     
  17. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GolTV HD launching on Directv on August 4th. FSC HD launching on August 11th. Confirmed by satelliteracer, and for those who don't know his word is bond.
     
  18. Onyewu Power Station

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Everton FC
    we better not have to wait another year for fs+ hd. :(
     
  19. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    NICE!!! So there IS A GOD!!! Does it say anything about it being in 1080i like Univision/Galavision?

    With that said, why hasnt ESPN upped their game? They are still only 720p right?
     
  20. jhernandez86

    jhernandez86 Member

    Sep 22, 2004
    I believe that goltvhd will be 1080i but FSCHD and FS+HD will be 720p.
     
  21. SJTillIDie

    SJTillIDie Member+

    Aug 23, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is great news if it's true.

    Unfortunately I am stuck with crappy Comcast... they are still silent on whether they will ever add FSC HD. I am definitely going to switch to DirecTV if/when they start broadcasting FSC HD.
     
  22. Sandlapper Spike

    Sandlapper Spike New Member

    Jul 4, 2006
    Columbia, SC
    EPL Talk reporting that DirecTV will have FSC in HD on August 11 and GolTV in HD on August 4:

    Link
     
  23. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    720p is better for sports. Here's an article about it further...

    CLICK LINK

    Just because the number's larger doesn't mean it's better. It actually decreases the quality just a minuscule tiny fraction.
     
  24. luhg

    luhg New Member

    Jan 18, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    People inside Fox are telling me the 23rd guys for directv hd
     
  25. denverbrian

    denverbrian New Member

    Apr 20, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That would be bitter sweet as they would miss the opening weekend of the Premier League.
     

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