if you want to copy Germany, you need to copy each single German player and this is not possible..you have no players like Müller, Schweinsteiger, Lahm etc...we have also very disciplined and organized team, self-confident..plus we have strong tradition in soccer.. soccer made in Germany..and perfect coach....we have this special German TEAM spirit that is hard to copy...plus we are tournament team.. i have also read that German players are considered to be best looking players (rank 2: Italy, rank3: Spain)... our coach is also very fashionable..and good looking.. if Germany plays in Finale, then Bundesliga is the winner...cause all our players play in the BUndesliga...plus Dutch Team has also many Bundesliga players...the biggest winner would be Bayern Munich (our Bayern block at National team..plus Dutch team has also two Bayern players in the team). I remember last world cup you wanted copy Italy...maybe tomorrow you will want to copy Spain or Holland...you should not copy only best teams..you should have your own american style.. such a big country like USA need to "steal" european soccer style?.. i recommend oyu to invest more into own american soccer style...you have soccer.. we have footbal! and you have also good soccer style..so why to copy someone else?..you are not GERMANS!!!
well, you have very different soccer system..MLS, colleage, university soccer. your MLS does not have any youth teams as our Bundesliga clubs have.. each big club has youth clubs as well...I think your players can not play in MLS when they are younger than 21 or 22..you have college soccer for this...you have simply different system...american even...for example our player like Müller, age 20, could not play in MLS due his age, he would probably play at college club... well i´m not that so familiar with your youth soccer system..but i know that you have very different system..with your college system.. German system invest a lot of money into youth soccer...in the opposite to England for example...due this we have many young talents... and I´m glad Germany won European Championship with U17, U19 and U21 ... so we have promissing future... i think MLS needs to be more open to young talents....
Looks like Klinsmann is jockeying for the best position. England or US... How England can learn lessons from German revolution By Jurgen Klinsmann http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8789682.stm
Actually, you have some outdated info. What you said was true 10 years ago. However, now MLS teams do have youth teams (infact MLS requires each MLS club to have a youth team system). And many MLS clubs now sign youth prospects to their full national team. Currently, there are dozens players around the age of 18/19 on MLS rosters and several of them play regularly. I'm starting to think that the guys at the USSF and MLS have already decided to copy the German youth development system. They're just implementing things slowly due to financial restrictions. I have a feeling that once a few youth players (that have been devloped, and signed by MLS) are sold for big money to European clubs, this whole system will really take off.
The US should take steps to emulate the best aspects of development systems across the globe while incorporating what this country uniquely offers, within the economic and political realities that exist today.
This post is too short and to the point... After every WC, there is a thread about copying the latest "flavor". Brazil. France. Italy. Well, may be not Italy... There is no magic bullet. In the end, when we do get it right, I will guess that we will look back and see multiple factors incorporated from several different systems. If you want to copy Germany, it's that they seem to have attempted to do exactly that...
Because it's (A) such a great article and (B) by Juergen HIMSELF, please read this link if you haven't already: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8789682.stm At that point, I told them I did not have the time to implement the strategy at all levels because I only had two years to prepare for the World Cup, so I asked for Germany's Under-21 team to adopt it and that was it. I brought in a former international team-mate of mine, Dieter Eilts, to run the under-21s and said they had to play the same way as the senior team because they would be a feeder for it. YES. The same logic applies in the U.S., where our U-20s and certainly our Olympic U-23s should be FORCED to play the same style as the USMNT. I mean, I love Rongen's 4-3-3, but it does little to prepare players for the next step up. I'm bolding the excerpt and re-posting the link because it should be required reading for anyone interested in arguing in favor of the USSF hiring Juergen!
Looks like the German youth system is being schooled by Spain. Germany sure knows how to defend. All the attacking is being done by Spain with 30 minutes to go. Where is the beef???
Score is now Spain 1 and Germany 0 at the 74th minute. Who suggested we use their youth playbook? Spain is giving a lesson in attacking and Germany is showing how to defend as that is all they can do.
might want to get rid of that post above for the (r) finatics. And I've always perferred the Dutch playbook.
I think the US already copied this "youth movement." The way I read it, Germany looked to France and other successful nations and designed their development system to be similar. Unfortunately due to geographic and economic constraints, the USSF can not afford to pay for the program. Hence the US Development Academy program was created. If I recall, that the US Dev Academy is in year three of it's existence If that's the case, then the proof of it's effectiveness can be more clearly measured once the '92s are making up a substantial part of our MNT. I know the academy has it's problems, but that's for another thread.
typical Americans..first you want copy German soccer youth movement because we played the best soccer in the world cup (except this one game against Spain). now you want copy Spain.. on Sunday maybe Holland.. last world cup Italy. have you own strong American opinion supporting own american style? where is your American self-confidence? do you really need to copy only "best" teams? is that everything what you want...copy and copy...like Chinese..they copy everything I´m disappointed of American self-confidence and proud.
American soccer's youth movement has been going on since the 70's and really there is no American style of play. I think they should however, develop and take the best things from each country. The only trouble is, with a country this size and time table between tournaments being what they are, I don't think there has ever been enough time or patience to develop a certain style of play. Its kind of difficlt to do when you have a young 14 year old pro league and when your top players are playing in different leagues in Europe.
well, i understand the situation about american soccer. however, you need to start to create own soccer style slowly instead of copy every year "other style"..you even don´t know which style you prefer.. for me is German soccer style the best now and DFB the strongest football federation in the world...Spain is for me as good as Germany...o.k they won the game and have super team.. but have also super team and invest a lot of money in supporting young talents... if your players play in different european leagues, it is difficult...our players play only in the Bundesliga..which is advantage...from my point view... maybe you should do something to make your own MLS stronger and more attractive currently MLS is not that so competitive to european leagues...all your talents want to play abroad!
Well the MLS is getting tougher but there aren't that many skilled players as there would be in in Europe who seem to sign the top European and South American players. How can there be when they invest and put all their hopes in just one designated player I.E Claudio Lopez , Schellotto or a Beckham per club? Its getting there but I agree its still not there yet. As it is, top players don't want to come to the MLS for many reasons but besides money, everyone wants to play in the UEFA or Champions League so they can be seen. What I find amazing on the other hand is you have a nation like Uruguay who's total population doesn't equal 3.5 million and they reach the final 4? Incredible. You wonder how the USA with all their 300 million people not to mention a huge lot of registered players could get to that point? With all their resources, every neighborhood in the USA has either a park or a school on each corner (with natural green grass) and this alone should make them in line to be more than just competitive and make the 2nd round every 4 years but among the top 4 or 8 in the world. Another problem the USA has is too much organization. If its not organized, no one plays. You have the foreigners initiating pick up games every week but Americans youth or otherwise will not do that. If they aren't in a structured league, they just will not play. They may play softball, baseball or basketball but in all my years of following soccer, I've yet seen (at least on the west coast) a bunch of under 20 American kids organize a soccer game. It just doesn't happen.
It is interesting that Germany played "proactively" the whole tournament and decided to play "reactively" yesterday and got destroyed.
I don't think they wanted to play that way. I just think the Spanish would not let them play any other way.
Maybe you are correct but the German players said they "lacked courage." I think youth caught up with them in this pressure packed game.