MLS Single Entity Sends Handicapped Clubs to CCL. Do We Not Know, or Not Care?

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by soccerreform.us, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. soccerreform.us

    soccerreform.us New Member

    Mar 12, 2009
    Denver
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jury is in: MLS averages 1% of US v Ghana viewers. The fact that that's fine is the root of the problem. It's not young, it's fifteen years old. It's great that we have first division soccer. Too bad it's handicapped on purpose, by people who don't care if anyone watches.

    NASL, collapse, and ASL collapse, left us with the fewest surviving outdoor clubs in the 20th century.

    What did we do? Employ the same failed closed model again, except this time, we dumbed down the teams even more.
     
  2. soccerreform.us

    soccerreform.us New Member

    Mar 12, 2009
    Denver
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NFL is one of a hand full of professional football leagues, and by far the biggest. They can set reality, because they are the reality of pro football. Though NFL uses a similar approach, MLS single entity is far closer to a fast food restaurant business model than even NFL.

    MLS can't set reality of soccer world, no matter how many junkets they send Don Garber on to try and get the rest of the world to follow are ratingsless lead. All they can do is dumb down our soccer to suit the needs of their portfolios and the American pro sports establishment, who benefit from a controlled soccer league, no matter how pathetic.

    MLS tv audiences remain stagnant because they are running an artificial, neutered and over processed version of the game, in which parity is valued over passion, in a soccer world that is far, far out of their control.

    The results are in - the experiment has failed. MLS ratings are as stagnant as the day USSF sold out the establishment, despite the fact that US viewership is up for international and major leagues across the spectrum.
     
  3. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In other words, you have no answer.

    A league with parity controls in place is not necessarily a ratings loser, as the NFL and every other American sports league shows. Continuing to pretend that it is, without a single shred of evidence, will not convince anyone who hasn't already drunk your Kool-Aid.
     
  4. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why didn't this glorious, open-system with pro/rel pop up in the aftermath of the downfall of either league? If this system is so perfect, where were all the businessmen lining up to invest in this new league?
     
  5. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem is complex it's just soccer wasn't popular enough for businessmen to take risks.

    I've noticed though that MLS is kind of going back to the old-NASL days with one aspect: Bringing in washed-up euro stars.

    Can someone tell me have that will improve development of our youth for this league?

    I know that the head honchos are looking for a marketing grab, but at this point development is more important to the future of U.S. soccer.
     
  6. Reignking

    Reignking Member

    Feb 16, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure what this has to do with the CCL.
     
  7. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing at all. Just another hook for Tim to promote his own web site and ride his hobby horse. I believe he's not allowed to do so in the MLS Commissioner forum any more, for reasons you can probably guess.
     
  8. BronxFC

    BronxFC New Member

    Feb 11, 2010
    Bronx, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, but when I shop at Burger King I expect them to be able to serve me a whopper that meets expectations.

    i.e. my whopper shouldn't have hair, nails, roaches, etc. in it.

    Nor should I have to compete with rodents in order to eat my whopper in the store.

    explanation: We cannot go to an open league system until team owners are willing to invest in teams. Promotion/Relegation would destroy soccer in the United States at this point in time.

    Sure, there are a few clubs that can make the jump to Div 1 soccer here. These are the clubs getting MLS franchises as we speak.

    The majority of lower division teams play on high school and college fields, drawing in less than 500 people a night.

    I'm all for an end to the single entity but, in order for this to happen, lower division owners have to step up their efforts. This means more stadiums and higher payrolls...

    Do you expect any competent business person to invest huge sums of money into soccer in a lower tier when it hasn't even been proven to succeed at the Div 1 level in the United States?

    There are simply not enough economically viable teams below the MLS level right now.

    Promotion/Relegation solves the problem of having too many clubs, not too little.
     
  9. Reignking

    Reignking Member

    Feb 16, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Burger King now has ribs. Has anyone tried them? They sound good.
     
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D-2 needs to be a real league to even discuse Promotion/Relegation.
     

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