ESPN ratings down 23%

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  1. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure somebody does. I mean, they aren't doing them for no one. The World Wrestling Championships are coming up in September. I care. I know other people that care. So it's not that "no one" cares. It's that you don't. That doesn't mean the other competitions don't matter. They are still world championships and deserve some measure of respect. The word "nobody" should be automatically banned from any discussion like this.

    This is why these stupid, inane, immature discussions are so tiresome. Everything turns into a pissing contest, which then turns into false justification to try and prove that the interests and passions of a soccer fan are more important than anything else. God forbid anyone say anything bad about soccer - and I have fallen into the trap of spending too much time bitching about some people who do - but the first ********ing instinct is to belittle and marginalize any other sport or competition that anyone tries to reference.

    And all of this chest puffing about the World Cup in a thread on MLS ratings. Christ on a bike.
     
  2. EmpedoxFCB

    EmpedoxFCB Member

    Apr 20, 2009
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you Monster.

    @Brodie--I'm sure you'd care about the FIBA World Championships if we dominated them. It's kind of ironic not caring about the world governing body of basketball's championship.
     
  3. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have that exactly backwards.
     
  4. EmpedoxFCB

    EmpedoxFCB Member

    Apr 20, 2009
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you wouldn't care if we lost?
     
  5. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its what the masses want. For sure.
     
  6. BrodieQPR

    BrodieQPR Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    Michigan
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no idea who wins the FIBA World Championships, just like 99% of basketball fans in this country. For all I know, we do dominate it.
     
  7. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never have, why start now? Of course, that's not what I meant, nor really makes sense as a reponse to what I posted.

    If we cared, we'd dominate. Do you seriously disagree with that?
     
  8. jass

    jass Member

    Oct 12, 2006
    Club:
    Parana Curitiba
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Americans dont care about the world cup. So it doesnt matter.

    Im sure if the american players cared about it, we'd dominate it.

    After all, "If we cared, we'd dominate. Do you seriously disagree with that?"


    Or, to copy and paste directly:

    "I have no idea who wins the FIFA World CUP, just like 99% of soccer fans in this country. For all I know, we do dominate it"

    "I have no idea who wins the FIBA World Championships, just like 99% of basketball fans in this country. For all I know, we do dominate it."

    "I have no idea who wins the World Baseball Classic, just like 99% of baseball fans in this country. For all I know, we do dominate it."

    "I have no idea who wins the Ice Hockey Championships, just like 99% of hockey fans in this country. For all I know, we do dominate it."


    We can do this all day.

    I find that europeans pull out the same excuse when a south american team wins the CWC.

    "I have no idea who wins the Club World Cup, just like 99% of soccer fans in this continent. For all I know, we do dominate it."


    In fact, this may work with EVERY subject!

    Math. Skyscrapers. Mass transit. Science.

    The formula is simple:

    I don't care, thus none of my countrymen care. But if I cared, and my countrymen cared, we'd dominate, because this is america damnit, and we're the best at absolutely everything. Why? Because my 1st grade teacher said so.
     
  9. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The formula is only simple if every sport is exactly alike in popularity and proportion of national resources available.

    But they aren't, so it isn't.
     
  10. EmpedoxFCB

    EmpedoxFCB Member

    Apr 20, 2009
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah how does the poster's previous mathematical equation solve the soccer problem?
     
  11. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, this number is great... 0.3= 441,000 viewers

    From Sports media watch.
    Sports Media Watch
    I still can't find the number from 7/01/2010 though..
     
  12. Sportsfan1

    Sportsfan1 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is his prediction bro, not an official number.

    cable ratings are not even released until 2pm eastern today in any capacity to any media outlet...

    unless it comes from the source...

    and a 0.3 flat US rating = about 345K HH not viewers.....
     
  13. L.A. SOCCER NATION

    L.A. SOCCER NATION ONLY IN L.A.

    Jun 17, 2005
    LOS ANGELES
    Wow! Thats nice! There was no better time for first time viewers to witness such great goal as the one from Juninho.
     
  14. Sportsfan1

    Sportsfan1 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That is not a rating.....

    the 441K number he made up.

    the 0.3 is a prediction from the blogger who hosts the site.
     
  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Buddy Biancalana was not a better player than Ernie Banks.
     
  16. galaxy500

    galaxy500 Member

    Jan 21, 2010
    LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the ratings for last nights game might not be all that good. Many people on the west coast were out watching fireworks shows at the same time as the game.
     
  17. FireFanInPackerLand

    Dec 8, 2004
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, duh.

    You schedule a soccer game that is during fireworks shows and 4th of July BBQs for most of the country, what do you think is going to happen?
     
  18. BrodieQPR

    BrodieQPR Member

    Jun 27, 2010
    Michigan
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the official ratings should be out by now, no? anyone have it?
     
  19. Sportsfan1

    Sportsfan1 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    You may not see the ratings for this game for a few days if ever...MLS ratings are pretty obscure....getting ratings for NBA, NHL, and MLB reg season games are not that easy...overtime a season average is always out there...but induvidual games are not always assessable...MLS games do not carry much weight in terms of interest of tv ratings....odds are the Network(espn won't push it out there unless it was a big rating for what they deem a big rating...)

    Sports Business Journal may have it tomorrow...but it wasn't on broadcast so it may not be leaked at all...I can try to email a couple guys to get it..but with the holiday that won't happen today.

    Since people in the business want to see if there is a post WC bump this game probably will be out there by Thursday...

    if the game did extremely well..ESPN would of leaked it.

    There is also nothing for the game before it....probably wen't back into the 200-250K range...I promise to email two guys I know that may be able to get it now..but it's not like I am some priority to them..just a guy.
     
  20. MUTINYFAN

    MUTINYFAN Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Orlando
    I wanted to see the game but I get ESPNDeportes instead of ESPN2 and Deportes was showing MLB
     
  21. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do you get Deportes, not ESPN2? I thought they had nearly full penetration for ESPN2 except for institutional (hotels, etc.). Just curious - I would think that a provider would make it almost impossible for someone to get a Spanish-language package without having a tier that includes 2.
     
  22. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2010 FIFA World Cup: Soccer Finally Gets a Foothold in America
    Bleacher Report
     
  23. MUTINYFAN

    MUTINYFAN Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Orlando
    I am with Direct TV. I get the spanish tier because of the additional soccer channels but for some reason it does not include ESPN2. I get ESPNClassic but not ESPN2. They used to include ESPN2 but not anymore. Well at least I get FSC. I also believe that we have a sports tier but it does not include ESPN2 either although it has GOLTV in English and FSC.
     
  24. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that DTV has ESPN2 in every package they offer. Turn on channel 209 right now, and tell me what you see.
     
  25. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has there been any attempt to calculate how people watching in bars and restaurants were added into the ratings?

    From the bleacher report article one stat did jump out:

    "Another interesting fact: the median age range for the World Cup television viewers is 39, significantly lower than the median age of 52 for the Olympics."

    One of the many reasons why I think soccer may not suffer from the Olympic Gymnastics effect as many seem to think. Oh sure, there were a lot of people simply caught up in the spectacle and patriotism/nationalism thing, but I don't think the interest from many will simply die until Brazil 2014.
     

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