Mod's note To preempt any justifiably frustrated England fans: 1. Yes, the goal was in by a very comfortable margin; 2. The Assistant Referee was correctly positioned, and unfortunately the run of play precluded him being on the goal line to call that (I wish he'd seen it anyway, but I can't blame him for missing it); 3. Yes, this is a horrible miscarriage of justice that is a perfect example of why goal line technology and/or additional ARs would be great. However, this is not the forum to vent about the injustice, abuse the referee team or rail about how FIFA needs to use technology. Please vent in the England forum and start a thread in FIFA & Tournaments if you want to talk about technology. We really don't want to have to delete posts and/or infract users over this because we understand how pissed off you must be. Thanks. I think I speak for everyone when I say every England fan has our deepest commiserations for, frankly, bieng robbed.
The AR should have clearly seen that one - he had a great angle as he was choogling on down to the corner. Lots of green between the ball and goal line ... but, easy for me to say!
I doubt they will go technology but I do think we will see Goal line assistants in 2014. Can't really blame the AR... long fast hard shot and he was hauling butt to get there!! Wow, wow and double wow!
I hope you are joking. Oh and Tyler did just mention you can't be offside on a GK. Someone must have whispered something in his ear.
At least karma works both ways on these mistakes. Even if referees make mistakes, they tend to cancel themselves out at some point. Even if 44 years apart. Too bad Dienst isn't here anymore to see it.
Exactly, all he would be doing is guessing. Larrionda is properly positioned but would have had to have Superman vision to have seen that because that shot was a blast. While watching on TV, I'm thinking that ball had to be in (and again, that's guessing like the AR would have been doing). The silver lining as everyone has mentioned is that you'll now have some sort of replay mechanism. If this had happened in Friday's Uruguay/Ghana game, no one would care. If the result stays as-is, because it happened to ENGLAND, you'll see changes (guaranteed).
Don't think it will be replay. They already have the "microchip in the Ball" working. Has been around for 6 years. In this scenario, the chip wold indicate a goal in the referee's ear, and the goal is awarded. I am sure during the half, the referee crew is either hearing all about it and certainly are discussing it. I hope the AR doesn't re-enter this game seconding guessing the rest of his calls. He did what he thought was right. He wasn't there, couldn't get there without Mercury's speed. He couldn't guess if it was in if he wasn't sure! He needs to brush it off for now and not let this moment effect the rest of his game.
Everyone focus on the referee analysis. Chad Sexington's post might be laughable to you, Ref Flunkie, but it was prompted by a post from you that had nothing to with referee analysis at all. There are a lot of those in this thread for some reason from multiple posters. Caesar and I have let them slide but if this thread spirals out of control, we're just going to go back and start deleting.
Just to echo MassRef's sentiments, we will be policing this thread particularly ruthlessly to keep it on topic. For those who are familiar with the normal moderating standards here you will know that this is saying quite a lot. Every other forum on this site will have threads trashing Larrionda and the AR and appealing for goal line technology, so there are plenty of options elsewhere if that is what you want to talk about.
Yup. That's going to be lost in all the controversy. He really can be great... but he's also erratic.
Is there a live reply screen in the stadium? I know some of the stadiums have one. It may seem of topic, but I'm curious about how the referee team manages the players if everyone has seen a big screen replay that clearly shows a good goal disallowed.
I hope this question is appropriate for this thread: When a shot on goal takes place, where is the AR instructed to look at? Is he looking at the ball, or is he looking at the second to last defender, or is he required to look at multiple things at once?