Portland Timbers new logo/crest?

well let's see. since i am interested in following an MLS team with soccer culture and not a minor league baseball team i don't see that as such a ludicrous statement.

all things being equal i tend to trust FO that have a modicum of taste and a sense of classy professionalism.

obviously Paulson, being a minor league baseball owner saw the previous design work done by the firm that he chose eventually to ruin his soccer team's logo and thought "wow, i really like this cartoony, uber-cheezy, Americanized sports logo stuff they've done". and went with them. disaster was sure to follow.

so if he cannot be trusted to make a simple and quality decision about something simple like what deign firm to go with what is to make me think he has the ability to make other good decisions regarding football. he seems to obviously have a "minor league sports" mentality and sensibility and not a "traditional soccer" one.

and if the FO is so out of touch with the most loyal fans, the Timber's Army, that they didn't sit them down along with the FO and staff and say "ok, we want everybody to rank the current MLS crests from best to worst, we will tally the votes and go with the 3 design firms that have done the ones people like most. they will each submit a concept/initial design and we will go from there" might just be sign of a FO that isn't one i'd like to be a fan of. at worst they should have, when they first entertained the notion of using that Rare design firm , gone to the Timber's Army and said "hey, here is the portfolio of the design firm we are thinking about using, what do you guys think ... Paulson loves it." to which 90% of them would replied "uh, that stuff is shite, whatever you do don't use them, Paulson would like that rubbish being a minor league baseball owner and all ... the man obviously has no taste. Call the owners in Philly and ask who did their crest, it looks like a proper, classy and profession football crest." Problem solved before it ever becomes a problem.

and as far as i am concerned, when you don't have a local team, being a fan of a team isn't so much about "choosing" a team as it is the team "choosing" you. it happens almost by accident, over time. you at first follow with perhaps mild interest, which moves to respect from a distance and somewhere down the line, over the long period of time starting when you just were mildly intrigued, you have become a "fan" without realizing it. so obviously anything that causes you to "lose" respect, even a little, during the early stages of this organic process will be "a step in the wrong direction" in becoming a fan of that team. that is hardly a outlandish or unprecedented statement. if it seems that way to you i would suggest you are blinded by your pre-disposed dislike of me personally and/or you have never gradually become a fan of a team outside of the teams in your "home" area.

anyway i am perfectly comfortable saying, that as i follow most of the new teams coming into the league (both before they arrive and once they have) i am far more impressed with how the Caps and Union have handled their branding and crests. wow. what an earth shatteringly crazy sentiment that is.

to put it in simpler terms that perhaps even your diseased FOX news mind that seems to draw inaccurate conclusions by mis-interpreting statements can understand. their logo and the lack of organizational taste, football culture accumen and sensitivity to their most ardent supporter base that it represents isn't going to "cost them my support" as you so inelegantly, hyperbolically and incorrectly put it but rather be a couple step in the wrong direction on the path to earning my support in the first place. my support as a fan wasn't their's to lose in the first place. it was their's to earn over time. taking a historically great crest and reducing it to a garrish minor league baseball-esque side show is not the sort of thing that aides in that process for a person like myself. the opposite could definitely be true for others who more like that style but not for me. this is neither an groundbreaking or outlandish sentiment.

feel free to put that in your signature and then put it where the sun doesn't shine ...

 

nope.

and you are right. what is with the $99 season tickets. those must be some badly obstructed views or something.

 

Well, not later than now the Timbers FO should be seriously concerned because OleGunnar20 from the Big-Soccer-Forum has taken into consideration to not take up the Timbers as "his" team because the crest does not meet his demands.

 

yes. because even a child or mentally retarded person can clearly see i most emphatically said that the logo was not simply a small part of a much larger picture when it comes to becoming or not becoming a fan of any particular team, in this case the timbers, but rather the be all and end all singular concern that will make or break the issue. and of course the same incapacitated mind would also clearly see that instead of merely expressing my opinion from my perspective (an activity often done on internet opinion forums) i was insisting that my fandom or not fandom should be the singular highest priority for the Timber's FO. i mean it isn't like i clearly pointed out the overwhelming negative reaction of their most ardent fans on more than one occasion as a serious area of concern in both this thread and others.

 

Love the badge, but the logo on the shirt looks flat. I agree with others that keeping it completely circular would fix some of that, and it's not a stretch to think that it could still be modified before next year.

As for comparing it to the original Timbers logo, I honestly think it's an improvement. While the old logo may have been steeped in tradition, it looks dated and lacks cohesion with the rest of the league. It's a throwback to one league that failed and another that was on life support at the beginning of the year. So while longterm fans may feel they got shafted, the reality is that the team really needed a modern facelift for a modern league.

 

Yeah, look how Seattle handled it after the negative reaction from some of their fanbase that followed their logo reveal

 

The problem with this is, if there is such a serious and passionate negative response by a large portion of the fanbase to this logo, merchandise sales are going to falter pretty badly as a result. Hopefully this doesn't happen, but I'm pretty sure I can confidently say that most in the Timbers Army will not buy any merchandise with that crest on it. The Timbers actively and frequently market the TA to push the Timbers brand. They need to market them wearing Timbers merchandise as well.

 

The TA are just a small portion of the entire fanbase which the Timbers are attempting to reach. They have to sell all the tickets at PGE and right now that isn't happening. They need to attract new fans in order to achieve that goal. They'll have their ups and downs just like Philly, Seattle and Vancouver. It's far better than the logo here in Seattle and I'd venture to say I like it better than what Vancouver unveiled earlier this week. The TA thinks they are far more important than they are. Cheerleaders.... go figure.

 

You must be the most insecure US soccer fan in the entire country, which is an incredibly difficult feat.

Please, for all of our sakes, just enjoy the soccer a little bit and stop sweating the small stuff. Whether it's a mediocre logo or a bad attendance week in Dallas, life goes on. Relax and have fun with what we have. The rest will fall into place.

 

LOL, no. I'll agree with you on attracting new fans and about the TA, but that logo is absolute trash compared to ours, straight up. Vancouver's better than ours? Maybe (although I still think ours is awesome). But PDX? lolz.

 

See..... some like what others don't. I would have liked to see our old logo move forward as the Timber fans do now...... at least this logo has a semblance of it's inspiration. It also looks far better as an embroidered piece.

 

Does anyone know what OleGunnar thinks of all of this?

I don't because I have thankfully had that crackpipe on my ignore list for a couple months now.

 

He loves it!!!!!! Almost as much as I adore Pete Vagenas!

 

this is a soccer opinion forum. the whole point is to meet and discuss the minutae with other people. it isn't insecurity. and it doesn't hinder my enjoyment of watching the game. it is another layer to being long time fan of the sport and interested in all aspects of it great and small.

i am sorry that i do not start each post with a long caveat about how in the grand scheme of things this one particular issue/point/opinion is not the only thing i care about in life.

and for the record the sorry attendance of FCD and the ruining of a classic North American soccer crest instead of improving it are both valid topics for discussion and concern to both fans of the particular franchises and to others who are just fans of the game of soccer in North America as a whole.

 

Yea, but your opinion doesn't count. You hate everything MLS related. You're like the Jesus of Trolls, except without the six pack abs and the kick ass hair.

If you aren't Scottish, you should get kicked in the balls for being a poseur. If you are Scottish, it explains why you are so bitter about everything.

 

LOL @ Dudes who thought the old logo was the absolute best in American Soccer.

 

P.S.

I personally think the logo looks fine. I think the TA has the right to hate it. I think they will actually buy jersey's and whatnot, because in the end, it's their team.

I mean, Crew fans rock out with their Gay Steelworkers of America logo. Seattle fans weren't necessarily happy with their new logo when it came out, and they've sold a few jerseys even though they look like a highlighter just exploded on a pile of vomited up powerade (I've seen vomited up powerade too. It's an apt comparison.)

9 months is along time to let something settle. They've clearly kept the colors the same. They aren't changing the name. And Portland has the highest strip clubs per capita ratio in the country, so there's always that to distract the supporters. It'll be fine.

 

Please don't see this as a matter of me wanting to pick an internet fight, but this is so true. I had to go back and look at the D2 logo to remember what all the fuss is about.

I think once the dust settles, the only thing that will matter is if the City of Roses can win their NW rivalries.

 

Agreed.

 

We've already beat the pants off both of them this season.

 

You must spread rep before giving it to ElJefe again

(Somebody cover me please).

 

Covered.

 

I tried, but that same message appeared to me

 

Consider yours covered.