Racists!!!! Xenophobes!!!

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Michael Mejido, Jan 30, 2004.

  1. Michael Mejido

    May 14, 2000
    [​IMG]


    this field is used for nothing except the occasional organized tee ball game in the spring. The only other people who used it were the hispanic dudes who played soccer every sunday. OUTRAGE!!!



    ...granted, if these hispanics didn't always get drunk and rowdy and occasionally use the field as a commode these signs never would've gone up... but I want to complain anyways! RACISM!!! XENOPHOBIA!!!
     
  2. Metro_tico

    Metro_tico New Member

    Mar 31, 1999
    All you have to do is go there @ night and steal the sign, then you can play the following day and when the cops are called you say: "WHAT SIGN?, THERE"S NO SIGN!!"
     
  3. former baller

    former baller New Member

    Mar 10, 2002
    Form a community recreation club for yourselves. Register for the days you wish to play. Contact the city department in charge of the park. Apply for a permit/permission to use the park on those days. The city could require each participant to register with your club and require some form of insurance for the group. Maybe you might find a simpler way. Good luck anyhow.
     
  4. JeffGMc

    JeffGMc Member

    Oct 14, 2000
    New York City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Mike, post more often, BigSoccer needs you.
     
  5. Metro_tico

    Metro_tico New Member

    Mar 31, 1999
    Where is this field Anyway?
     
  6. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    Pueblo de Morristown, read the letrero.
     
  7. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    "Hispanic dudes who get drunky, rowdy, and use the field as a toilet" don't seem like the group that will go through the proper channels like that.

    Michael get those boys some wire cutters.
     
  8. Metro_tico

    Metro_tico New Member

    Mar 31, 1999

    Who's up for a pick-up game this Saturday in Morristown??
     
  9. Goalkeeps7

    Goalkeeps7 Member

    Apr 1, 1999
    The field is in Morristown. There have been newspaper articles on this for a few years now. Apparently the residents across the street don't like how people will change into shorts on the field in open view of their homes. And also, they say they don't like the noise on a Sunday morning.

    However, if you ask me, these people are nothing more than racists who hate the fact that they see hispanics using "their" field. They get nervous when they hear another language being spoken. It's really a shame that people can't just live their own lives, and let others live theirs.

    Finally, telling people they can't use a public park for things such as "soccer", because the hispanics played there often, is like telling people they can't stand in a public parking lot waiting for a ride to their job, just because they are hispanics.

    I'm not sure what brought Mike to bring this up now, but if theres a story behind it, i'd like to hear it. And if you would like to do something about it, I'd be more than willing to help. I'm only 15 minutes away. Pick up game on the Morristown Green??
     
  10. metro1026

    metro1026 New Member

    Jan 21, 1999
    Swamps of Jersey
    If you guys want to organize and stop this crap, I'm up for it....

    My friends and I used to get kicked out of parks by the cops all the time around Secaucus for that exact reason....until we had a few meetings with the mayor and the guy in charge of the recreation.....

    we stopped it....


    I cant stand that anti-soccer crap...

    get a few people to write letters to the papers, have meetings with officials....start making some waves....and you can reverse this....
     
  11. Goalkeeps7

    Goalkeeps7 Member

    Apr 1, 1999

    If i recall correctly, there were town meetings to address this problem, and this is the end result. Somewhere along the way something didn't go right.
     
  12. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The state that brought us "racial profiling" is at it again.

    ACLU of New Jersey Web Site:

    http://www.aclu-nj.org

    Contact Information:

    PO Box 750
    Newark, NJ 07101
    Phone: (973) 642-2084

    How do we get these guys to get involved with the process? Does Mike know any of them?
     
  13. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    You would have thought the geniuses in Morristown would have put up a 3rd sign in another language not to give away that they're targeting Hispanics. If they were smart, they could have just indicated "permit required for field usage" and not mention baseball.

    A town can put up any sign it wants.....the issue is whether it's legal or not. If you're a borough resident, I don't believe they can dictate what usage the public park should be for.
     
  14. sccrhound

    sccrhound Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    CT
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't cloud an argument with BS. What language would you like them to put up a sign in....German, Farsi, Italian....

    Don't use the race card, unless you have proof. For something like this it seems like a tired excuse.

    The largest second language spoken in the US is Spanish, so the signs are what they are.

    When you are working in a residential neighborhood, you have to play by the rules....

    If you get a permit and then act appropriately then they have no recourse.

    If after that they still give shite, then I'll take back all that I said, and put in my two cents to the town.
     
  15. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with this. Apply for the permit. If you get turned down, or you get a bureaucratic runaround ("we can't find the form") then seek legal help, newpaper help, help from an anti-discrimination agency, etc.
     
  16. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt. He hooked a few fish without really trying. If we had the old Mejido back, just imagine how much could be had...
     
  17. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on Mike's track record, it is a very strong possibility that he is putting us on and that he made up those signson his computer. Remember the April Fools thing about Kevin Payne? ;)
     
  18. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It does look more than a bit suspicious...given the Spanish language sign.

    If that happened here, there would only be one sign and the reason would be the continual fight between baseball and soccer for fields. It really pissed off the baseball locals when Parks and Rec decided to build soccer fields rather than baseball on some prime real estate...particularly since the rationale was that both boys and girls played soccer, while only boys played baseball, and therefore soccer fields would provide wider opportunity.
     
  19. UncleLTrain

    UncleLTrain Member

    May 19, 2002
    Reminds me of high school. My high school field had some baseball infield on it. All those years of cuts from slide tackling.
     
  20. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    FWIW:
    In Culver City, CA (just east of Santa Monica and Venice in the LA area), a similar sign was posted....

    exclusively in Spanish.
     
  21. sccrhound

    sccrhound Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    CT
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't ask about Culver City, since I don't know much about CA, but I know a little more about NJ
     
  22. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What happened after?
     
  23. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I don't know. I saw on the day b4 I moved up from LA to Oakland, and I didn't have the time/energy to protest.

    It was a similar situation: houses in front of a park. But it really was an affront to see that the sign was written in Spanish only. PLUS, it prohibited any ADULT, so kids could play, but not adults.

    It just seemed really pointed towards Latinos. I keep forgetting to check out the park whenever I'm in LA to see what happened.

    These signs contribute to the perception of being excluded. Was it racially motivated? It wouldn't surprise me that neighbors took advantage of "inappropriate behavior" (changing shorts in public) in order to force minorities out. But given that ppl mask their prejudices so well nowadays, minorities can absolutely sense the prejudice, but it proves difficult to substantiate.
     
  24. nolram

    nolram Member

    Dec 7, 2000
    Bayonne, NJ
    Wait, so when are we getting together and who's got the good handwriting for the signs? Are we calling the Spanish stations? How about those Shame on you segments I see on the news?
     
  25. Michael Mejido

    May 14, 2000
    FYI

    FYI:

    I walked past the same field today and about 8 hispanic dudes were playing soccer on the basketball court 10 yards away from the outlawed field. they had brought shovels with them and had cleared the snow off the blacktop.

    Hell, there wasn't any sign telling 'em not to do THAT :)
     

Share This Page