http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/67/w...antos-i-convinced-giovani-to-stay-with-mexico "I had to convince him to stay," Jona said. "He was very hurt because we thought about playing at the World Cup together and it was a hard blow. I talked to him and told him he had to stay so he wouldn't let everything he'd worked for go to waste." Damn
Jona on ever playing for Mexico again: "My father went through a heated moment," he said. "Time will tell. I don't want to talk about this now. I have not closed the doors to anything. A lot of things can happen in the world of football." http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/114/...out-on-world-cup-jonathan-dos-santos-says-hes
The last thing we need is all this drama, Jon suck it, you still have a great future ahead of you. Keep working hard and concentrate on getting more minutes with Barca. Gio suck it up, your playing beautiful futbol right now, dont let this BS affect how you play. Your about to be playing in the WORLD CUP for gods sake. Torrado smack this kid in the back of the head and get his mind back on the task at hand.
Coming from Goal.com I don't know how reliable thatinfo is. Notice there is no writer name on that report either, no list of sources. Did Jona do an interview where he said these things.?
Goal.com is absolutely terrible. I try not to read there anymore because it simply pisses me off the freedom they have to simply make stuff up. Not to mention their player ratings are half-assed, game recaps are weak, pre-game hype is not too insightful, blah blah. Are their writers paid?
goal.com does suck, sometimes they have somewhat accurate stories, sometimes they leave out key words to make it more controversial, and sometimes its just a straight up lie also seems to be Barca biased, but I'm sure if they quit winning they would join the next bandwagon
That's the truth, right there. Barca wronged? Poor victims. Barca doing the wrong? Clever gamesmanship. And that is the story of how Barcelona found themselves on my little 'foe' list on the left hand side there.
Tanto escandalo con los hermanos Dos Santos. Estos dos chicos nunca va a llegar al nivel de un Carlos Hermosillo 350 goles,Luis 'MaTADOR' Hernandez etc y menos van a ser un Hugo Sanchez goleador de 5 titulos de la liga Espanola.
The Mexican dailies are also reporting this. Why won't the Dos Santos family just let this story die? At first I thought it was just Zizinho but now with Jonathan chiming in...... Jonathan's declarations really make his brother look bad. Any Mexican footballer that considers leaving the team this close to the WC is going to have their loyalty for their country and their teammates in question as they should. If Giovani Dos Santos really considered leaving the team as his brother states then we must question the common wisdom of building the future team around him. I gave both of the brothers the benefit of the doubt, I just chalked up to their dad exploding with anger at the time. However, with Jonathan's declarations it really casts a doubt on Gio as a future leader and foundation of the team in the future years.
Nah, it only casts doubts if you pay attention to the media, FMF should talk to families and players and it should stay a closed conversation. FMF -- > Players --> Families FMF (SAME CONVERSATION(NOCHANGES) --> Families = WIN! or just do a Cisco/Skype to Skype call and have all the family gathered around a big screen TV and tell them the news, if they're far away! Come on! You have the money! I think that's how it should be, not like it looks like it is now: FMF --> Families FMF --> Players Players --> Families Families|Players --> Media
That's all beside the point. The FMF is a largely corrupt organization, I agree the Jonathan cut was not handled as great as it could have been. However, the aftermath calls into question the character of the Dos Santos family especially that of Giovani. Jonathan Dos Santos has for the most part handled the situation correct his Dad and Giovani have not. His had who cares what their dad thinks. The most revealing and worryng aspect of the whole issue is the reaction by Giovani. This is the qoute from Jonathan Dos Santos: "I had to convince him to stay. He was very hurt because we thought about playing at the World Cup together and it was a hard blow. I talked to him and told him he had to stay so he wouldn't let everything he'd worked for go to waste" Gio had to be convinced to stay? What kind of a player is he? Isn't he supposed to be a leader of the team? He had to be convinced not to bail on his home country two weeks before the world cup? Does anyone not see a problem with the implications of this?
To those doubting the story, Barcelonas Sport.Es is the source. http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=718665&idseccio_PK=803 “Convencí a Giovani para que no se fuera de la selección conmigo” El disgusto de la familia Dos Santos tras ver cómo Jonathan se quedaba fuera del Mundial fue tan grande que incluso su hermano, Giovani, se planteó abandonar el combinado de Javier Aguirre. Jonathan evitó que el drama fuera a más y explicó que “tuve que convencerle paraa que seguiera. Estaba muy dolido porque pensábamos en jugar juntos el Mundial y fue un golpe muy duro. Hablé con él, le dije que se tenía que quedar para no echar a perder todo lo que se había ganado”.
Jonathan sounds like a mature kid. It shows on the field, too. It sucks that Gio, apparently, thought of quitting the team. At the same time, it's somewhat understandable, considering the way FMF and Vasco have done things generally and how they've treated Jona through the years (making him return his sweats at the airport...classy!). I would be pissed if my younger sibling was treated shabbily, too. Though it can be taken the opposite way, you have to give Gio some credit for standing with his brother over his professional career. You also have to give Jona credit for making sure Gio didn't hurt himself by defending Jona. Also, I don't think the whole blow up is solely about his getting cut-it's about how it was done. From reports, it seems that Vasco cut the kid without even talking to him about it. That's not cool. Having him be the only one cut this late in the game is also not cool. They should've taken only 23 or they should've taken a few more guys to make the cut a little easier to take. They just need to act more professionally. If you cut him, explain your reasons. He may not like or agree with them, but at least you explained it to his face. I can respect that and I'm sure it would've been better taken by the Williams sisters..err....Dos Santos brothers and their family.
I don't don't now how are you guys thinking, but if they had done this to my brother and I was playing in the team, I would have walked out with him. Yes, Mexico should come first, but in the heat of the moment is different, its worse if you take other factors into consideration, for example, the fmf doesn't represent the country, it is owned by the owners of the first division clubs, and they make the decisions, they are the bosses of the technical team, and if Carrillo wants a future, he better do what they say.
I agree with everything you say except I would argue that most people would put family before country. I, personally, don't have a problem with that.
Had they done what? Had they decided not to take him to the World Cup the biggest soccer event in the world? No one on the FMF or Aguirre publicly insulted Jonathan , he is a player that has much potential. However, he needs to realize that potential first at Barca. All that happened was he was the last man cut, he should be very proud of that at his age. Why not just have the Dos Santos family run the FMF and Zizinho be the coach of the NT? That's what you are ultimately suggesting. And frankly I'm tired of all you who are making these wild accusations towards our coach and our players. This story has got be hurting the morale of the current team. I mean Bofo , Conejo, Blanco they might not be the best we could have taken, but the decisions have been made. We need them to play to the best of their ability if they get to play, the accusations about how they are so bad and will fail miserably at the WC are not helping. The question I pose to all of you is, are you fan of your country and the team we have fielded, or are you a fan of the Dos Santos family.
This was not a life or death decision that was made. Virtually everyone agrees if Jonathan stays with Mexico he has a high probability of being a star during the next world cup. Don't try to paint this as any other than a coaching decision by a coach. That's all it is. The cutting choice was not Gios or the Dos Santos family to make. No one asked Gio to betray his brother , and if he feels wants to take a coaching decision as somehow betraying his brother then it shows how little he understands about the coaching dynamics of the game. It's not like they asked Gio to stab Jonathan in the back. It's simply a temper tantrum by a very immature player(GIO). If anyone should be mad it should be Jonathan not Gio.