FIFA threatens to suspend El Salvador due to governmental interference

Re: Official national team thread - 2010 Edition

Yeah hopefully they work this out soon or else it'll have a a bad effect on our U17's and U20's who were to take part in qualifiers later this year.

 

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I hope FIFA suspends El Salvador from ALL competitions for the next 2 years. In life drastic measures are needed to clean up and rid of all impurities that being a whole country, an organization, even your own digestive system, purging is a necessary evil in El Salvador. I wouldn't hold it against FIFA if the do purge our sport for the next 2 years

 

Re: Official national team thread - 2010 Edition

FIFA confirma suspension a fútbol salvadoreño:

http://www.laprensagrafica.com/deportes/futbol-nacional/116647-fifa-confirma-suspension-el-futbol-salvadoreno-.html

 

Re: Official national team thread - 2010 Edition

is fifa being sarcastic in that letter when they congratulate vasquez and co...well, it would be typical crap if ES is cutoff, feel terrible that the youth teams and chicas suffer due to the inept actions of others...sigh.

 

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If anyone can answer this question. What exactly happened that made FIFA not allow El Salvador to have any international matches for seniors, subs, and clubs? Only thing I know they got fined and that they can't play for 2 years.

 

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All I Know its that the the fesfut Pig's are full of crap, and the suspension is needed to better out league and our national team for the future.


>UNO<

 

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all i know is that they suspened for a month and in that they dont fix it suspneded till further noticed

 

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fix what ?

I smell politics into this, can someone please clarify WTF is going on ?
I will pos. rep the first poster who can actually give us the answers with out getting into politics.

 

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what i read on espn is that the government doesnt recongize the normalizora i might be wrong but that what i understand my dad say government just want to steal and maybe they cant with them on the way

 

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SAN SALVADOR, May 3 (Reuters) - El Salvador risk suspension from world soccer after the country's government said on Monday it did not recognise a FIFA commission running its football federation (Fesfut).

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/wo...ver-government--fbintl_reu-latamsalvador.html

 

FIFA Suspends El Salvador

FIFA has suspended El Salvador and if by June 8th FESFUT hasnt fixed their problems with Government FIFA will not recognize EL Salvador Soccer. Which would mean No ConcaChapions, No UNCAF, NO Gold Cup, No Beach Soccer. Even the Refs would not attend the world cup.
http://www.laprensagrafica.com/deportes/futbol-nacional/116794-fifa-reta-al-estado-salvadoreno.html

 

Every time El Salvador plays is always a great pleasure watching them play and we support them but sadly this people had to mess things up.

Therefore is the best thing that can happen to our Salvadoran soccer right now, remove these corrupt people and clean house. There days are number for this sorry people.we have to start with capable people that have a better vision than these Federals today which are a big problem to our Salvadoran soccer.

 

Seriously it looks everytime el salvador soccer makes one positive step foward (FESA, El Salvador beach soccer, el salvador players recognised abroad, performances by the el salvador national team) it takes 2 step back (FESFUT organisation, failure to improve the first division standard and other issues) grrr i seriously i hope we finally clear this up.....i hate to see el salvador miss out on the uncaf, gold cup, ccl and other events.
This would be a huge blow to all the good thats in el salvador soccer, all the honest and decent people working on improving our game and the fans & players in general.

 

Right so i've tried not to comment on this so as to not get people all worried about something that may or may not happen, but now i can see people are getting a little anxious to know what's going and people are talking about things and laying the blame on certain people without even knowing what's going on, so here it is.

So we all know that at this point in time the people running the federation are the comision normalizadora with Reynaldo Vasquez as president right? Okay well we also all know their time in charge has almost come to an end and as so they need to vote on who will lead the way after them. And the problem is that now that all this is coming to an end (the comision normalizadora time in charge) the Salvadoran government (not the comision, but the government and as a result also it's affiliates such as INDES etc) has said that they do not recognise the comision as the leading authority (that is in other words they won't support the comision in the upcoming elections and will also retract government funding). Now due to this governmental interference, FIFA has threatened to suspend our participation in any events sanctioned by them due to the government trying to undermine FIFA's authority (in installing the comison in charge) and as such not complying to it's statutes.

Now this suspension that has just been handed down is only for one month and we have until June 8th to get the government to recognise the comision or else FIFA will hit us with a one year ban. So you could say we have now been handed an official warning to work things out or else thinks could get a lot worse.

So with all this, i just want to again point out that it is not the comision who have messed up and caused this problem, but the government. They have threatened to do this in the past (the government that is) and in their defence they do have valid reasons. That said, at this point in time things are fine with the comision and they really have no reason to complain IMO. It seems to me they are doing it because of the mistakes FESFUT has made in the past moreso than any mistakes they have made under Vasquez. But who knows, maybe they all know something that we don't. Either way they have just under a month to retract what they've said and support Vasquez and co or else FIFA will hand us a one year ban which will exclude us from all competitions (not only for our clubs/players, but also for the referees and anyone else who works under FIFA). That in effect means, among other things, that the national leagues will need to hire and pay for their own refs and also that our players will not be able to complete any international transfers.

 

For those that still might have some doubts about what it's about, read this, it covers the whole situation pretty well IMO.

 

Salguero explicó que en el caso de los jugadores salvadoreños que tengan la oportunidad de irse al exterior, el equipo que desee contratar sus servicios no negociará: FIFA le otorgaría el pase al jugador en calidad de agente libre.......

Link: Los jugadores protegidos

 

El Presidente de la Comisión normalizadora dió a conocer esta mañana en conferencia de prensa el comunicados oficial de la FIFA donde sanciona a El Salvador debido a la intervención gubernamental en el fútbol salvadoreño.......

Link: Ellos dan por sentado que estamos suspendidos

 

the real fault here is government trying to get involved in sports instead of cleaning the streets it was a mistake bringing them in power

 

Well if the government is giving the Federation $1.8 million a year, they have the right to get involved. Last year money was missing from Fesfut and things that were found that had nothing to do with futbol were paid vacations to Europe, and diet plans (most likely for Calvo). The corruption inside the normalizadora has to stop. Remember when the beach soccer team went to the world cup the fesfut recieved some millions in there where is all that money? they've reported loss everytime. Government pays the employees of the federation. they are waiting for their $ but the federation doesnt have enough

http://www.elsalvador.com/mwedh/nota/nota_completa.asp?idCat=6429&idArt=4781882

 

This has happened with previous governments in El Salvador not just this one it has also happened to other countries. Truth is fifa always comes down very hard if there is even a sniff of government involvement in the decision making at all. Its kind of weird to take government money and have them in the sidelines but fifa pulls it of. Of course fifa isn't always right when iraq tried to remove some corrupt members of their federation they were sanctioned, the same has happened in other countries I am not saying that is happening here but it is done to make sure fifa and their friends can stay in power. I mean look at CONCACAF's president how long would he last if there were standards and not just croniesm.

 

Perhaps the government is trying to clean up the sport?

My understanding of the situation is that the old president of FEFSUT left/got kicked out and FIFA then assigned the Normalizadora to run the federation. So my only question is why did FIFA ever need to install a normalization committee to run FEFSUT? Was the guy who used to run it corrupt? Did he fail to vote for Chuck Blazer or something?

Beyond that my reading of the situation is that FIFA is trying to pull their normal, everyday bull-shizzle. Since when is the Salvadorean government required to recognize the Normalizadora or even FEFSUT more generally? I haven't read anywhere saying that the government tried to establish another federation or that it tried to promote its own president of the federation. So what if they withdrew funding for FEFSUT? The US government neither recognizes nor gives any funding to US Soccer and we get along with FIFA just fine.

The only conclusion I can reach with regards to this whole situation is that the FIFA guys who were running the Normalizadora and thus FEFSUT more broadly were probably doing something innapropriate or illegal (such as skimming money). The Salvadorean government called their bluff, and now FIFA is throwing a temper tantrum.
Says the Great Jack Warner: "God damn anyone who tries to take away my God given right to ticket scalping, extortion, and fraud."

 

They try to do something that they feel will help benefit our football and help it get better in the long term and they are the bad guys? Righhhht

Guess if it was ARENA and they just continued to turn there back on those corrupt officials that use to run FESFUT then that'd be okay right?

Fact is even though this has gotten out of hand, the government has valid reason to do what they've done. That said, i personally feel that at the moment with the comision everything is going fine so you could say we were already on the right track and there was no need for it. Hopefully in the end it all gets worked out and this can at least be a warning to to all those who are not doing what is in the best interest to football in our country (not talking specifically about the federation but also those in charge of the league as well as club presidents).

 

Exactly, that's the way i see it. The problems came from the previous administrations (including Calvo's). The normalizadora has done a good job and should not be punished because of the actions of those who came before them.

Read above.

Might be wrong about this but i highly doubt that qualifying to the beach soccer world cup gets you even a million dollars let alone "millions". FIFA doesn't even charge and entry fee for those that go to watch the matches live at the actual World Cup itself, so i doubt they'd be throwing out huge money like that to every team that made it. They may get a few thousand at most to cover expenses but i'd be very surprised if even then it's anywhere near 100k.

 

El ex vicepresidente de la FEDEFUT antes de instaurarse una comisión de normalización, Humberto Torres, dio su punto de vista acerca de la problemática que vive nuestro país por el desconocimiento de FIFA.......

Link: La FIFA se ha equivocado