Recording World Cup Games

This could potentially be a huge problem. I too enjoy recording matches every so often to either archive or watch later... but I'v never had this issue though.

Are you using a harddrive recorder or is a recorder that records directly to disc? I've heard of these copywrite issues with recorders that record to a hard drive, but I haven't heard of this happening with recorders that record directly to disc... times are changing I guess.

I don't really understand why they want to copywrite the signals though. Its not like they are gonna sell individual matches on DVD for a profit. Why wouldn't they want you to record? It seems really stupid to me. I mean, the only reason movies are copywrited in the first place is because they are sold to the public via DVDs, or through other media. But sports are sold more through commercial advertisements and the like.

 

it's not pointless. It's why HD TV was pushed as hard as it was - because of the HDCP copy protection flag. All part of the Digital Rights Movement that's killed independent Internet Radio and led to the RIAA suing college students. This is part of the reason I have no desire to switch to HD until I have to - that and the outrageous TV prices.

 

For the World Cup you will be able to download (********.com, etc.) every game & store them on a hard drive for all time. And if you want to watch them on your TV just buy a DivX-capable DVD player (~$40-$50.)

I have all the games from WM2006 so, for instance, I can relive all the grief I got from my fellow Americans for wearing an Italy shirt at the Italy-US match (Viva l'Italia!)

Most ISPs these days give you high enough download speeds that the days when it took an all-night session to download one match torrent or a match from rapidshare are long past.

Of course life would be easier w/o the damn copy protection, but there are always ways around it so you can take control of your viewing. I guess that's one good thing about copyright laws — they spur innovation from the hacking community.

 

I have no problem with using a VCR to record. If those greedy ingrates want to play hardball, that's fine with me. Like a poster before me said, it's not smart to piss off the customers. They usually win.

 

ok i just tried it...What you have to do is record to your DVR first. They when you want to play it it gives you the option of " copy to VCR" as long as you have the connections it will work and to copy directly to a DVD

 

Have not had this problem but I have way around it

1) Hook your DVR box up to one of the inputs on your TV (this is the cable with 3 different colored ends (yellow/white/red)).

- You will now be able to watch the same thing you are watching on TV on this input.

2) Instead of selecting on your menu "Write to DVD", just hit "Play" and then begin recording with your DVD player

- If you want to record the game to a disc live, you now should be able to do so. However I recommend recording it first then writing it later.
- I find this the best way to write games to discs because you can fast forward through commercials and cut out parts you don't want (halftime, etc.)

Any questions let me know

 

why would that work if the copy protection is coming from the cable service to the dvd burner? the problem as I understand it is that the recording device picks up the analog copy protection signal and then distorts the recorded signal or prevents the recording. The only way around it is using a recorder that doesn't care about copy protection signals, or using an intermediary to remove the copy protection signal.

 

The cable company thinks you are just watching it instead of copying it to a disc

I might have one that does not pick up that signal thankfully. Its a Toshiba 410 KU

@ vipfootball- I sent you an email and PM on here. Please let me know if you get either, thanks!

 

ahhh ok - 1 + 3 = apple

 

Recently tried to record Man City vs Liverpool game from FSC broadcast from my DVR to DVD via SONY DVD Recorder.

For the first time ever, the recorder would not record it due to a copyright signal, which stated "cannot record copyright movie" and the recorder automatically stopped. This is some broadcast flag issue that they use on now on digital signals.

I never thought that with all this technology, that as we upgraded from VCR and analog TV to digital, then HDTV, we would now be prevented from archiving soccer footage.

Does that mean, when all the World Cup games come on in HD on ESPN and ABC that we won't be able to record them and preserve them on DVD via DVD recorders or via DVR?

Surely that could mean millions in America not being able to watch the games due to the awkward LIVE broadcast times.

It's July, so what happens if I am out of town and come back after a weekend and want to see the games from previous days...how will I do that if this copyright signal blocks all recordings of the games???

What if I want to keep the opening ceremonies or World Cup Final on DVD?

 

watch them on your DVR then delete them. Clear enough space on the DVR for when you go out of town. If you want to archive them then that's not the network's/provider's concern. There are ways to get around posted in this and other threads.

 

Originally Posted by koppite4ever
Sadly, this is a DVD Recorder to disc issue. I was shocked when it happened to me. I have recorded games that go back to the 70s, so not to be able to record and store World Cup 2010 games, especially in HD, will be demoralizing.

At least for now, I can record games to my cable DVR, but no way of transferring them yet to disc. But then when the DVR is full, I will end up losing the games I kept from the beginning. It's all so stupid and pointless.

 

Yeah... It really doesn't make any sense at all since its not like companies are loosing profits by letting people record sporting matches. I mean, the whole purpose of copywriting DVD's is that people should buy the movie at a store, but its not like a person can run down to their nearest walmart and purchase soccer matches from the world cup.

Its as stupid as having the HSN (home shopping network) being copywrite protected and not let you burn THAT to dvd. <don't know if this is actually true or not, but thought I would use it as an example>

 

agreed... only problem with ********.com is the majority of the cappers use file sharing sites. Very few will throw up a torrent or even ALLOW a torrent to be created. Quite childish in my opinion. There are other torrent sites as well. With all the technology these days more cappers are releasing 720p and even some 1080p matches. Should be a good World Cup for media access via the web. I will have 4 dual tuner HD boxes running in my house and I will also download the matches worth keeping.

 

I have all the games from WM2006 so, for instance, I can relive all the grief I got from my fellow Americans for wearing an Italy shirt at the Italy-US match

 

Anyone try recording directly to a PC using a tv tuner? I have a Haupauge video tuner for my laptop and wonder if that might still work... hmmm, Ill have to give it a try.

 

I've mentioned before that I have not had problems doing this.

 

anyone know if ESPN will be leaving out their little scrolling score board ticker at the bottom of the screen during the world cup? Reason I ask is that I was watching a game recorded from ITV and didn't realize how annoying that scrolling bar on ESPN's broadcasts are to the game...

 

not likely

 

Am happy being a luddite.

VCR FTW!