Game #5: FIRE vs. Dynamo 1836 4/24/10 @ 7:30PM -TP [R]

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by fireman451, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but it's not exactly a bad thing to have some depth. I'm assuming we still have the cap space to sign a DP (Blanco if he decides to come back), so if we have a few Salvadoran NT players at depth, I don't see the problem. And we haven't exactly seen enough of them to be able to completely write them off (as so many seem to be doing).
     
  2. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    A) he wasn't signed to be depth. I don't think, anyway. I think we all were under the impression that he would be our starting right mid; B) He might not be good enough to count as depth. I base this on three things. First, the game we did see, he looked absolutely lost and ineffective. Second, CdlC has given people a chance after poor games, including Pause, McBride and Pappa. He isn't even including Martinez on the subs bench these days after one poor game. Finally, I believe I remember Bunge saying that he was not very good in practice; and C) he counts as an international slot as well as salary. To me, its just a waste to use your spots like this. There are plenty of decent Americans you can sign as cover for your starters without wasting a higher salary and an international slot for someone on your bench. That is also why I wasn't a big fan of signing two international left backs.
     
  3. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Very well put.

    I think that CDLC might have underestimated the level of MLS, maybe thinking it is a slightly better version of the El Salvador league. Therefore, to him, Martinez would have been able to slot right in.

    I hate wasting roster spots on pet projects like this. Umanzor looked like he had never played left back in his lone start. In short, "his" guys look like pretty weak sauce.

    The good news is that he is not stubborn enough to keep playing his pet projects, unlike, say, Bob Bradley who constantly includes the likes of Bornstein and Johnson (and you can include Guzan too).
     
  4. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I'm happy to give him a couple of mulligans on signings. I think he has used those now. :D

    Assuming they were non-guaranteed contracts or one year deals, its not the end of the world.

    I do think we did CdlC a disservice by not getting him signed up in advance of the MLS combine. I think he could have gotten a better sense of the quality of young players available here before he started signing foreign players.

    I think we still have cap room and an international slot or two, so no harm no foul for the most part.
     
  5. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yep. CDLC is out of mulligans.

    Umanzor must have been signed for depth reasons because I have seen no evidence of Krol's alleged slowness. But then, why waste an international spot on a back-up? Same thing with Martinez.
     
  6. murtaugh

    murtaugh Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Chicago v Texas at Toyota Park (06-current)

    2009
    Chicago 0-3 FC Dallas
    Chicago 0-1 Houston

    2008
    Chicago 1-2 Houston
    Chicago 1-4 FC Dallas

    2007
    Chicago 1-2 FC Dallas
    Chicago 0-4 Houston

    2006
    Chicago 2-3 FC Dallas
    Chicago 2-2 Houston

    Played 8, won 0, drew 1, lost 7, for 1 point. 7 goals for, 21 against. Minus 14 goal differential.
     
  7. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I like those odds!
     
  8. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After Saturday's game it will be:

    Played 9, won 1, drew 1, lost 7, for 4 point. 10 goals for, 21 against. Minus 11 goal differential.


    3-0 FIRE!!!!!!!!!


    Any news on Thorrington.
     
  9. salparadisejr

    salparadisejr Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    Hollywood, FL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should be hung on a wall inside the Fire locker room. Have some damn pride guys!
     
  10. burningfire

    burningfire Member+

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Dynamo is compact team but its not that Fire can't break them this time...

    GO FIRE
     
  11. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Attendance may take a big hit due to weather this weekend.

    Both of them were underwhelming in their first games, but that's not enough to evaluate them. If they're not looking good in training, then that's not a good sign, but I just don't see the problem with having them around this year as added depth, even if that's not what they were brought here to provide.

    Who do you think should be ahead of Guzan? Hahnemann maybe, but this is his last WC cycle. I'd take Guzan over Perkins or Rimando at this point.

    I agree with you on Johnson (I'm sick of seeing him on the US roster), but it's not like the US has a wealth of talented players at the left back position to replace Bornstein.
     
  12. el nordissimo

    el nordissimo Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    "018"
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that one would know it from having watched the LA game, but Houston Dynamo is actually off to the best start of its existence as such.

    I hope your people bring flares and they show them on TV.
     
  13. RadioGonzo

    RadioGonzo Member+

    Nov 16, 2009
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    got to say, as a former SJ Clash fan from my NorCal days, I have a bit of a soft spot for 1836, but who did you guys get to replace Holden, Clark and now Ching? Generally losing your 3 best players degrades a team a bit.
     
  14. burningfire

    burningfire Member+

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh! ya...what else ?
     
  15. kornkid15

    kornkid15 Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    chi-city
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    what is he speaking of? that never happened :rolleyes:
     
  16. Kozy

    Kozy tHE pOPULAR fRONT

    Oct 13, 2004
    check.
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Allegedly.
     
  17. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I hope you die in the in the worst possible way. Get out.
     
  18. RadioGonzo

    RadioGonzo Member+

    Nov 16, 2009
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This Old Man, [Onstad]
    He Told Me,
    We Share a field with a Football team,
    With no Stu no Ric no Ching over-the-hump
    His whole town smells like a dump.


    [​IMG]
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will Hybrids cars get a discount for parking this saturday? I know they did that last year.
     
  20. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So is the game on CSN, My50 or both, dishnetwork guide has it on both. It would be nice to have a website that tells you what channel the games will be on. According the FIRE's website (schedule) we don't even have a game this Saturday.
     
  21. Giskard

    Giskard New Member

    May 1, 2009
    217
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The schedule I am looking at shows the game being on CSN.


    http://www.chicago-fire.com/schedule
     
  22. SuziQue

    SuziQue Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    NW Burbs - Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Red Stars discounted hybrids last year, not the Fire.
     
  23. Giskard

    Giskard New Member

    May 1, 2009
    217
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The Fire gave free game tickets if you recycled old electronics. The person who took the electronics was pretty disappointed at how few people where cashing in on that deal. She must have had a thousand or more coupons that never got claimed. I wasn't surprised because the offer was extremely under advertised.

    Also, she would not accept a 40 of OE as a bribe for the remaining coupons.
     
  24. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I click on the schedule tag there are only 2 April games on the schedule April 3rd and April 10th.

    On dishnetworks guide it has the game on CSN and My50.
     
  25. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    living here in indy, i dont get Comcast Sportsnet, and apparently Comcast doesnt carry it where i live. Still, i have MDL, and the Fire games are not showing up on it despite being advertised on there, b/c they tell me its on tv in my area.

    im tired of looking for links, and simply want the service i paid $40 for to work properly. Im contacting MLS about it. Does anyone outside of the chicago area have this problem??
     

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