inconsistency and the fact that the Mexican media always blows things out of proportion and tries to make us think we are better than how we actually are which causes fans and followers to have high expectactions a few bad games here and there, and manys fans and the media want a major overhaul change in the team as if it were to give them overnight results
Hecho en Chivas just gave you the best answer. Villamelones are easily impressed by what the media says after the results, we are either the best in the world, or the worst.
Just came across this, and the video is all that much more of a hilarious pendejada, when you realize that the five players (Carlos Ochoa, Fausto Pinto, Cesar Villaluz, Luis Ernesto Perez, Pavel Pardo) did not even make the pre-world cup camp roster, and the Coach (Sven) was terminated over a year before the world cup. Let's hope that this remains a relic of a disjointed, unprepared, and undisciplined era for Los Tricolores, the likes of which we hopefully won't see again for a long time.
lmao sinha made a cameo appearance in the end and wasnt even ever called by sven (i think) lol, seriously its hilarious
So now, more than a year after this thread was started, what do you guys think of the NT now? I think we are progressing well, especially at the inclusion of alot of new blood
We've come a long way since last year... it was looking grim before El Vasco took hold of the team. With 60 days to prepare for the WC, I'm feeling better and better about our chances in the WC
Mexico has held a pretty solid position in the fifa rankings of at least being in the top 20 teams in the world for a while now. Considering 32 teams in the W.Cup and Mexico making it up the 2nd round of competition in the last few W.Cups I would say Mexico is right were it should be. It may sound crude, but it is the truth. Hopefully in 8 or 12 more years when more players sprout from Mexican youth clubs and into European ones we could reach the top 10 teams someday and go as far into a semi final or final. This time I think Mexico makes it to the 3rd round defeating Nigera. Looses to Brits probably, but not US again!
Mas Cantera...mas cantera ...recently, chivas formula has gotten better results at producing players who are going to europe than n e other, including pumas and atlas...so if we wanna be badazz we gotta make it homegrown n sucessfully create quality players to export...only then we move forward and closer to better things in the international arena...
Re: Mas Cantera...mas cantera This whole past year I've been used to watching the Premier League and Liga BBVA thanks to Fox sports and Directv's spanish channels!! (hellz ya) And when I watch the mexican soccer league...I can see the very big difference in ability. It's a huge drop. I used to think any Mexican team was just as competitive as any European team...but that's pretty hard to accept. I remember watching the super-clasico a few weeks ago and it was a borefest. Even the simplest of passes weren't completed and the speed of the players was disastrously slow.... then when you see how small some of the *best* are (like that joke, Sinha), it really puts us all to shame.
Re: Mas Cantera...mas cantera I never really did understand the bases on which those individuals who argue that the Mexican league is close if not on par with the big south american and euro leagues could do so with a straight face. I know Mexican teams have done well in the Libertadores, but other than Chivas, most of those teams had a phenomenal foreign player like Cardozo or Cabanas. And even then, when push came to shove, they were never able to win the big one when it counted. I remember a while back I pissed a lot of people off by saying that I thought that U.S. collegiate teams could compete with Primera A teams. I think I made this argument on the bases that I felt U.S. NCAA athletes are generally more physically gifted (i.e., more muscle mass, faster, taller, etc.) than those in the Primera A. I haven't seen anything in the Mexican leagues that has changed my opinion. Call me an idiot if you will, but the proof is in the pudding when a U.S. athelete like Hercules Gomez who played his ball in U.S. college and that "terrible" league MLS, can come in off the bench and light up the FML. Until we have a large contingent of players experiencing success in the top leagues, we will not compete on the level which we'd like to. The positive is that we're slowly getting players across the pond and hopefully they will make some headway. Poor Guardado though, his muscles, tendons, and ligaments are as fragile as a wet paper towel.
I wouldn't dwell too much on "MLS rejects" title as guys like Jay Demerit were deemed not good enough for it and look at his career.
Just concentration on the Mexican League itself too me it has come a long way from the time I started watching back in 93 or so but with all the league options available nowadays it does seem harder and harder to think your watching a quality product when in some Mexican league games your clearly not getting back what your time is worth when a few hours earlier you were watching mastery on the field either by conjuction or an individual that almost made you shed a tear of how beautiful the game can be played. Then a few hours later you tune to the talking heads on Futbol Picante who complain how one team is playing so horrible despite them head and shoulders way better players than most teams in the league, no mamen when did that happen? If anything the true globalization of the game is hurting the Mexican League's rep and will continue if they don't do something about playing in the heat for sure. I can't see anybody that is tuned in from another country either by internet or satellite getting into the league and following it on a regular basis like people used to do years before because in the heat and in the day the Mexican league looks like garbage if the viewer can get their football fix by tuning into some other league somewhere else.
Re: Mas Cantera...mas cantera Mate, don't want to piss you off but I don't understand how you say that with a straight face after the terrible performances of the MLS teams in the Concacaf Champions League, a tournament in which 10 Mexican teams have played the semifinals in the last three years.
i bet even a team like Indios, Tigres, or Queretaro can make it far in the CONCACRAP Champions League
Re: Mas Cantera...mas cantera Martin- I'm with you on your argument, but not your facts. 4 Mexican teams in 09-10, 3 in 08-09, but before then the CCL didn't exist (and under recent CCCup format we only had 2 slots to begin with).
It is a bit unfair to compare the games you watch on Fox to the Mexican league, I mean watch Man U or Chelsea or Bayer M. play and yes watching Mexican football feels like watching your 6 year old in the park, but if you watch games from the bottom of the table then the differences is not as Huge. Also watching Barca play and then any other team you will see a huge difference. I have gol TV, I like to compare the Argentina league, The Brazilian league and they also play some Colombian games in Gol TV. The difference is noticeable in the speed and first touch of the ball, but it is not as big as comparing it to Europe. Even Argentina has some boring games. I guess that my point is that if you compare it to the top teams in Europe yes the MFL is crap! But compared to other American leagues it is not that bad!
Re: Mas Cantera...mas cantera My bad. I'm just too tired and thought there were already three editions. Correction stated. 7 teams in the last two years.
Re: Mas Cantera...mas cantera and no reason to think the trend will stop, given that every team won their group this season. In fact, though it's only been two years, no Mexican team has been eliminated by a non-Mexican team yet.
No they can't, because to even qualify for it, you gotta make it to a Mexican League Final, which is hard as f*k to do.