Zinha is one of Mexico's best mid fielders! His passing solid and has the ability to strike the ball pretty well. I would pick Zinha over Bofo any day! Zinha is playing well compared to Bofo's contribution to Chivas.
He is one of the best midfielders at the moment but am I the only one that has the opinion aside for the Iran game in Germany '06 he got manhandled and was eradicated off the field at the highest level? A slightly better record than Luis Perez but with the same problems on the national team even though for club he's been a major force for his team. If he ever has a major negative to his record for not being called up and never will by Aguirre it has to be the physicality of the game he couldn't cope with at the high level of competition.
I agree with you that he didn't have a stellar WC, He played good against Iran and the time he was on the field against Argentina I think he brought fresh ideas to the team. But you also have to remember that he had a pretty damn good Confed. Cup in 05. IMO he was one of the best players of the team. I think the fact that he didn't excel at the WC shouldn't be a factor for not calling him up for one of the games. What has Bofo done at NT level??? not much, besides a good game against Ecuador at the Copa America with Lavolpe and some good games against Concacaf teams. And yet, he is in the preliminary list...
Zinha shouldn't be on the National team because the physical part of the game throws him off. He is just like Angel Reyna a person I thought should get his chance but when he played he was neutralized due to the physicality that the game requires at that level.
I would take him over Blanco, Bofo and Nery. Maybe not in the starting 11 but definitely an option on the bench. Don't know what Aguirre is thinking.
Zinha would fit best as a delayed forward just behind the two other ones. He knows how to distribute the ball to them and shoot if necessary. He scored with a header in the last World Cup being the shortest player in the whole tournament. He is still active in Toluca, a first division team. Cuahu is overweight, just like Bofo. I hope el Vasco does not regret bringing two Fatasses to such a vital role in Mexico's national team.
How is this even a discussion? Sinha isn't even a clown, he's a goddamned clownshoe. He's short as hell, and slow as shet. Every time he every played for the Mexican national team he was incredibly slow and inaccurate. All he ever did was chase down the ball--which, of course, inspired many morons to label him a "fighter", a player who "never gives up" regardless of how pendejo he plays. THE ONLY REASON WHY ANYONE WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO WANT SINHA ON THE NT IS BECAUSE THEY SWALLOW THE STUPID BULLSHET THAT COMES OUT OF "FUTBOL PICANTES" TRAITOROUS AND SPECTACULARLY STUPID MOUTHS.
The reason why I would like to see Zinha in the NT is because he has vision, good passing and shooting, knows how to change the pace of the game, creates opportunities for forwards, starts regularly for Toluca, has played a confederations and WC with moderate success for the team. He is not the best player in Mexico, he is short, yes but he has more qualities than Bofo. Is younger and fitter than Cuau, and is playing more regularly than Nery. It's funny in the game against Iran in WC 06 Aguirre praises Zinha's play for the 2nd and 3rd goals. This on Azteca's feed of the game.
Him being smaller than Bofo is huge... because of the level of competition we'll be up against. He isn't much better than him either. He may be younger and fitter than Cuau, but he's still isn't better than him. I play more regularly than Nery... who doesn't play more regularly than Nery? I would rather take Jonathan than that POS Zinha.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you think Zinha is POS. I think he should be in the team. The WC is not all about height, and I think he is a hell of a lot better than Bofo. Bofo plays a couple good games and then dissapears, do you want to see Bofo play good against SA and then dissapear against France or Uruguay. I prefer someone who will be pretty good all 3 games than someone who will have the game of his life and then not even show up the next 2. You're saying that you want Bofo because of the level of competition we'll be against, how is Bofo more experienced and proven than Zinha there?? Bofo had a good Libertadores with Chivas and 1 Copa America in 2005, he had a good game against Ecuador and pretty much dissapeared the rest of the tournament. Do you remember any really good games at high level of competition by Bofo other than the ones against Boca and Ecuadorin Copa America?? I don't Zinha performs consistently w/ Toluca and played very well Confederations 2005 and WC 2006. Great game against Japan, decent against Brazil and okay against Greece. Then he had a pretty good game against the Argies and performed well against Germany. Do you remember WC 2006?? who made an assist to Omar and created and culminated the play for the 3rd goal in the game against Iran? As far as him not being better than Cuau, I agree with you on that. Cuau has more talent than Zinha, however, in the last games with the NT Cuau showed that he is aging and that he is lacking speed and pace compared to the rest of the team. I'll rather take a Zinha performing at 95& of his capacity and playing the whole game than a Cuau who is currently performing around 80% of the Cuau from 3 or 4 years ago. As for Nery, with you saying that you play more than Nery I'm not even gonna bother.
Because it's true. I have no problem with Zinha not being on the team 1. Aguirre doesn't see a reason to have him, I'm fine with it. 2. We don't know for sure if Bofo will go or not 3. He's not even really Mexican.... I had a hard enough time trying to accept that crazy ass Guille- I'm glad we cut out most of the naturalizados in the Sven era (who didn't include Zinha either)... and we're better now than we were then
I can understand why people don't want him on the team but this statement is demonstrably false. Two games in particular stand out. The Azteca 06 qualifier against the Nads. The 06 WC game against Iran. You can say he was slow but he was hardly inaccurate "Every time he played for the Mexican national team...". The game against Japan in the Confeds is another one that just came to mind.
1. Aguirre is the coach and we have to live with his decisions, doesn't mean we have to agree on them. And I don't agree with some of his decisions. 2. That is correct, personally I have a feeling Nery will be called up and Bofo will go home. I have nothing against Bofo, he's a good player I just think he hasn't delivered in high competition games in a regular basis like Cuau or Zinha have. 3. I'm not gonna get in the naturalizados topic, but it is a reality in Mexican soccer. I don't mind having Zinha or Guille as long as they really love the t-shirt and the country and are playing because of love for the country rather than personal interest or rejection to the NT in their countries. In Zinha's case I think this is correct, not really sure about Guille.
Is there a point to this thread now? I mean we all know where Zinha would fit in Aguirre's formation. But to the delight of many and the chagrin of few, there's no way he's making the list unless either Bofo or Cuah go down with injuries.
Correct, you don't agree with Aguirre... I do (especially on this topic).. However, if it came down to either choosing Venado or Zinha I have to admit, I'd pick Zinha... just not Zinha over Cuau or Torrado or Castro or Jonathan 2 Saints
Cool, we all have our opinion on the subject and that is fine. You would take Cuau, Bofo, Torrado, Castor, and Jona over Zinha. Valid point, I agree w/ you selection except I would take out Bofo and put Zinha. Case closed. Rebano, I don't know if there is a point to the thread other than to put our opinion on Zinha's not being called. Even though I think he should be on the team I know he won't be in the WC, and that's cool. I just hope the people that go in his place do a good job.
Yeah that does seem the only ways he'll be called up and even though like I said before he can't grasp the physical part of the international game even though it's no problem for him at club level I have this funny feeling that as I write this and from here on Bofo is doing his best to cancel himself out of the final 23 man roster so maybe just maybe I'll have to eat my words.