MLS Expands Designated Player Rule

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Homebrew4U, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
  2. chitownfire

    chitownfire New Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, all I know is that stock for allocation money just went up.
     
  3. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Yeah, and Philadelphia's probably sitting on a lot of it. I think they've given up some for Califf (solely because he was considered a returning Nat, but he was a free agent), and some for Torres (but that's a loan with purchase option). And you get a lot for being an expansion team. Seems to me they have a lot of cap room, a lot of allocations, and a lot of options.
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lopez was a DP his first year. And Chivas and Colorado at least tried to use the value of the DP slot by trading it. Really only NE, FSL, and Philly have done absolutely nothing with their slot.
     
  5. chitownfire

    chitownfire New Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they have enough, one could easily see them get 3 DP's for a minor hit of 450,000 on their salary cap. NICE!

    Edit: Not saying they WOULD do it but they COULD if they had enough allocation.
     
  6. mrecint

    mrecint New Member

    May 31, 2006
    Fishers, IN
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Later to be known as the 'Henry' rule. I'm sure this is to pave the way for another DP in the larger markets.
     
  7. Cujo1126

    Cujo1126 New Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, not necessarily the larger markets.

    New England and Dallas are the 4th and 5th largest markets in MLS, but I doubt Hunt or Kraft will "waste" any of their precious money on expensive DP's.
     
  8. Sempuukyaku

    Sempuukyaku Member+

    Apr 30, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Um...Blanco? Ljundberg?
     
  9. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I find it tragic that so many soccer fans in this country will only attend games if they can see one of the top 1% of players worldwide on the field. Even Angel isn't good enough.

    Really it is only a difference of degree between when the non-soccer fans come out to see a Beckham and the self-proclaimed aficionados come out to see a Raul.
     
  10. BSGuy321

    BSGuy321 Member

    Sep 2, 2008
  11. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I don't think any of us big MLS fans would disagree with your assertion. I often talk to coworkers and find it astounding that they've seen every (INSERT BIG FOUR EPL TEAM) game over the last 4 years but have never attended a single MLS game, even with one local.

    They all would love to see a huge league here, but don't in any way want to put in the time to make that actually happen. Some of these people are even big fans of the US National Team. I always wonder how in the hell they can have any informed opinion about the squad when they've probably never seen half of them play.

    So yes, on one hand it sucks having to pander to the Eurosnob (or Mexisnob perhaps), but the reality is that if we get 10 new people to come to a game, MLS might actually manage to hang on to 1-3 of them for the long-term.
     
  12. BSGuy321

    BSGuy321 Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    ^This.
     
  13. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know if offering less will be enough to get the players, since i do not quite buy the striker shooting and coach kidnapping had a major effect (it did but not as great as one may think)
     
  14. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    I would probably scream at someone. :confused:

    Actually I think Tim Lieweke did. ;)
     
  15. ChicagoFC (FireClub)

    Jan 25, 2009
    Logan Square
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where is the pc4th poll about whether first DP should be exempt
     
  16. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    tehy got the yellow color part down pat
     
  17. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    I think that it's kinda working like a modified luxery tax, since the money is to be divvied up amongst the other teams, so it's likely a fee that the team itself pays in cash every season that they choose to use it.
     
  18. BSGuy321

    BSGuy321 Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    I would think so as well. Only plausible way it would work.
     
  19. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    This is awesome!

    So basically 3x335,000 is $1,005,000 dollars. The salary budget is $2,550,000 for 2010, which means, if you use three DPs, you'll have $1,545,000 left to fill out your roster. That could be tough. What are roster sizes? 20 men? Am I wrong? If so, the last 17 men would average $90,882. If you plug in your bench with a bunch of minimum wage guys, your non-DP starters could earn an average of $148,125 each. You should be able to make a pretty solid team out of that, but you'd have no depth.
     
  20. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Right now I'd settle for it getting us past the Honduran, Costa Rican, and sometimes Panamanian and Trinidadian teams that seem to upset us and keep most of our teams out of the knockout stages.
     
  21. kahlva

    kahlva New Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    True. But also remember the cap is going up 5% a year - so in 2011 the cap will be $2,677,500. In 2012 the cap will be $2,811,375. Etc.

    3 DPs start making more sense, obviously, the higher the cap number gets...

    And if we ever figure out/get transparency about allocation funds, maybe soon that could make having a real strong team - with 3 DPs - and some depth...gasp...possible?
     
  22. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    And any DPs for this year would only count for $167,000 so it most certainly makes sense for this year.
     
  23. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Have you not been watching Freddie Ljungberg in Seattle, my friend?
     
  24. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    MLS franchises lack depth for the most part anyway so little lost there. Plus you're forgetting the Generation Addidas players. Draft or discover a player like Steve Zakuani and he isn't counted against the cap.
     
  25. United fury

    United fury Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We all know success is defined in one year. :rolleyes: Let's see if he can do it again this year.
     

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