MLS Expands Designated Player Rule

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Homebrew4U, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    They can still buy the 3rd DP slot.
     
  2. TrickHog

    TrickHog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 14, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I'm sure AEG will do so...
     
  3. kahlva

    kahlva New Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    QUESTION Re: 3rd slot.

    $250,000 to buy one. Got it.

    But does a team need to buy it every year? Or is it a one time buy-in price? Like, you pay $250,000 and you get a 3rd DP slot forever?
     
  4. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    This also doesn't leave very much time for teams to find a player before the deadline, if this was a total surprise to the teams... hopefully they knew it was coming down the pipe and some teams have players lined up.
     
  5. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It did say there's no expiration date on the DP slots, so if you bought it, it's yours for AT LEAST the life of the player on your squad it would seem.

    this is fantastic. They add to the slots and subracted from the hit the teams take on the cap.

    Finally, some movement upwards.

    Well, with Chicago being able to "last minute" and agreement with Collins John, and Seattle already having Nkufo lined up for after the WC ... it would appear that SOMETHING was known.
     
  6. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would actually be the better move, you are right. Gives all teams a chance to have a DP guy that may both help on the field and putting people in the stands, without breaking a teams budget on putting other good players out there. If you want more than one, than you have to make some tougher choices, which is how it should be. But it is good to have SOMETHING. So I'll give them credit for that, most certainly.
     
  7. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I imagine any big signing at this point will be happening in June when the European window reopens.
     
  8. Gallade

    Gallade Member

    Oct 24, 2009
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Awesome news. :D :D :D

    I agree with the (seemingly majority) consensus that DP #1 should be cap-exempt, but this way is solid.
    Big news for the Red Bulls, obviously.
     
  9. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    LA used essentially 2 DPs last year (or for the 2nd half of last year anyway) and they were in serious competition for the supporters shield and were a couple PKs away from winning the cup.

    Teams can drop $650,000 of their salary budget on two players and still compete. They just can't fill their back line with old slow guys who make too much money (like LA did in 2007/08).
     
  10. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a feeling that the 3rd DP spot will go mostly unused. Even by LA.
     
  11. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    This is interesting -

    So I would assume that means that Beckham only counts for 167.5k this year (if he ends up even playing), which opens up even more salary cap space for the Galaxy.
     
  12. Indiscretion

    Indiscretion Member

    Aug 6, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well @ least this gives NY the firepower they need to sign Henry. I really think teams are going to use the 2 DP slots to their fullest..especially KC, Hou, and SJ(once they get their stadiums built)
     
  13. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    Huge step for the league. For a league that lacks big-time story lines, this should add a lot of intrigue.

    I would be interested to find out how many owners feel like this is too risky. MLS is really putting a lot more money on the field with this rule and with the new CBA.
     
  14. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a feeling Seattle would use a 3rd DP spot.
     
  15. kahlva

    kahlva New Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    I think teams will use the 3rd DP slot if they expand the cap by $335,000 :)
     
  16. AmeriSnob

    AmeriSnob Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Queens
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This summer is definitely gonna be 'UGE!

    Seriously though, I am in love with this move.
     
  17. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    3rd using all kinds of allocation money is doable. I've never been entirely clear on where allocation money comes from though. Does it renew annually, etc?
     
  18. vmax71

    vmax71 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 11, 2002
    high desert
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am really happy with this.

    From a personal rooting standpoint, concacaf champins league results are most important to me and I think 3 DP caliber players may be able to get us past the mexican teams if we plan the rest of the team properly.
     
  19. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a chance. LA will most certainly use that spot. You can book it. They were probably the biggest one pushing for it in the first place, along with NY.
     
  20. metrofan89

    metrofan89 Member

    Jun 13, 2005
    John and Nkufo aren't DP's though, I thought?
     
  21. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the big market clubs will use them, titles and names brings butts to the stadium and eyes to the tube. for the Galaxy I would not mind trying to bring in Palermo from Boca. We need a striker like Gordon who does not have an allergy to scoring goals. We have quite a few players we could drop to make it happen.
     
  22. AmeriSnob

    AmeriSnob Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Queens
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The league gives it out based on performance or for when a team loses a player to foreign clubs.
     
  23. RerunStubs

    RerunStubs Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    I understand the cap hit is now $335K, but does that also mean that the max salary for a non-DP is $335K? Or can you pay someone, say, $350K and not have him be a DP? (So that you can go out and sign two DPs without having to purchase a 3rd slot.)
     
  24. Indiscretion

    Indiscretion Member

    Aug 6, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man im really excited. It sucks that we have to wait til the Euro window opens but the rumors of who is going to sign who will fly.
     
  25. TomEaton

    TomEaton Member

    Mar 5, 2000
    Champaign, IL
    I don't think the risk is how much the teams will spend with two DPs, but the precedent the whole DP idea sets. If teams are signing DPs and they work out, in the sense of winning games and putting more fans in the stands, then you've done two things: 1.) put pressure on the teams who don't have them to sign them so they can keep up; and 2.) encouraged the league to create more DP slots. If one works, two is better, and three is better than that, etc.

    This is fine, as long as you're creating enough extra revenue from it all. The fear is that, although the DPs might create better soccer and even sell more tickets, that won't be enough to cover their cost. I'd love it if Red Bull signed Thierry Henry, for instance, but they can't put more than 25,000 fans in the stadium (in the current configuration, anyway), and they have to pay for his contract somehow. Maybe that's a bad example because Red Bull might be perfectly happy to run the team at a loss as long as the team is a good advertisement for their swill, but you still see the potential problem.
     

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