RSL 2010 games on local TV

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Section 5, Mar 2, 2010.

  1. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So last year I had Comcast and saw the games on Comcast 111, or KUTV 2.2. This year I have Dish Network, and was wondering if games were televised on my "basic because I'm cheap and poor" Dish package. DJ on Talkin Sports on Sunday night said that the games will be televised on KUSG, which is Channel 12 on Dish Network. Is this the same as it was last year? Like I said, I didn't have Dish last year and thought that the games were only broadcast on over the air 2.2 and Comcast 111. I'm just curious to know if this is something new.
     
  2. realsparta

    realsparta Member

    Jul 22, 2008
    All over
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe last year channel 12 was a different station than it is now. I hope they show it on that channel this year, that would be cool. Last year I had to turn off the Dish and extend the rabbit ears to catch it on 2.2
     
  3. Blitzz Supporter

    May 23, 2004
    Centerville
    It should fall under "Local Stations" that come with your Dish. I know that was the case with Directv.
     
  4. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2.2 wasn't available on DirecTV last year. They hadn't switched over to carry digital channels, and were still debating on how to handle the change. Hopefully they have it this year.
     
  5. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it looks like the games will be be broadcast on Channel 12 KUSG, a conglomerate of KUTV 2, and a St. George station http://www.stgeorge.biz/biz/profile/KUSG-TV.html on the Dish Network. Hooray for Dish Network peeps like you and me. No bunny ears this year for you. It says nothing about DirecTV, so I'm guessing it's a no go, unless KUSG is part of DirecTV's local package.
     
  6. dstorm

    dstorm Member

    Apr 13, 2007
    Salt Lake City
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is the best the defending MLS champs can conjure up as far as local television coverage, the local market and MLS is in far worse shape than even I thought.

    Pathetic.
     
  7. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree it's not great by any means, but it's better than nothing. I'm not sure what you are expecting. Even the University of Utah football games before the dreaded Mtn. network were broadcast on KJZZ for heaven sakes.
     
  8. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    It's in far worse shape than you thought.

    All games covered on either local or national coverage is a GOOD thing in my opinion. There was some concern that with the economic situation that this wouldn't be the case. You aren't going to get NBA/NFL type of coverage in MLS if that's what you were looking for (prime time, HD, on ESPN or 2,4, or 5).

    EDIT: at least the league is no longer paying to have their games televised.
     
  9. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Amen brother. Couldn't agree more.
     
  10. RSL Fortaleza Menina

    Jan 27, 2006
    global
    Agree 100% with dstorm on this. The issue isn't the economy--sorry. The "economy" is no better in KC or Seattle, clubs that will have thier non-national matches broadcast live in HD this year (on established channels that don't require a trip to RadioShak to view).

    http://www.mls-rumors.net/6912/2010/03/official-kansas-city-wizards-games-in-hd/

    Seattle is even bringing in a serious, BBC-groomed pbp man. Contrast with Sheldon on 2.2. Ugh..

    And the economy is certainly no better in NY or DC, where almost all home matches will be broadcast in HD on major, basic cable regional sports networks. All of those markets have far more summer sports competition than SLC. And those are just a handful of examples.

    Really, quit making lame excuses & apologies for RSL and the ever-bizarre SLC TV deals. Rabbit ears? St. George? WTF is that? Honestly judge RSL against the best of its peer MLS clubs. In the local TV measure, at least, much is left to be desired.

    Sad. Should be better, not worse, than 5 years ago. Surprising for Checketts--who's extremely media-savvy...and formerly president of MSG. Is this the lingering legacy of Larry Miller's influence? Or just a reflection of RSL's local near-invisibility?
     
  11. Black Prince

    Black Prince Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    This is weird. And disappointing. So, just to confirm, only DishNetwork has the games?
     
  12. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if we get 20K to consistently show up to our games it might change, until then, I will take any coverage (of course it could be better)
     
  13. 3.2's

    3.2's Member

    Oct 22, 2007
    SL,UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is this channel one that can be picked up by antenna in salt lake?
     
  14. wrennywren

    wrennywren Member

    Jul 15, 2004
    San Antonio TX
    I see KCSG on DTV, but no KUSG....
     
  15. DadOf6

    DadOf6 Member

    Jul 4, 2005
    Taylorsville, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems that there is a feeling that in not getting the local stations to broadcast our games is (another) sign that RSL is incompetent.

    I submit that it is more likely that the local broadcasters know how to figure the ratings of their broadcasts, they know how to sell advertising, and they are smart enough to see when the figures make sense.

    We will not get the broadcasts we want until the broadcasters and potential advertisers are convinced that there wil be a large enough share to make their investment pay off.
     
  16. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wait, you mean you need to have a high demand to get a high supply? what school did you go to!?
     
  17. Black Prince

    Black Prince Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    KC appears to have a good local TV deal. Lots of other teams seem to as well.

    If the reports are true and that RSL games will only be available on KUSG on DishNetwork, then yes, this is a step back for RSL. KC's market is not so different from RSL's.
     
  18. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think comparing Seattle to Salt Lake is comparing apples to oranges. Seattle isn't getting all of the coverage due solely to the marketing of the team. They are getting the coverage because the place is a soccer town, and the citizens want the coverage. I was amazed at the atmosphere while up was up there for the MLS Cup. While at lunch, I chatted with a guy who had driven to town from Eastern Washington for the game. He didn't know who was playing, but he wanted to take his daughter to a championship game like he went to back in the NASL days. The bars and pubs all had Sounders gear. Heck, even the Space Needle was selling Sounders gear in the lobby. The city enjoys their sports teams, and they especially enjoy soccer.

    Now, contrast that with RSL. The team has been here for 5 years, and there are still people who don't know who the team is. Many of the sports shops don't carry RSL gear, and if they do, it is tucked into a corner that can't be seen from the entry (Fanzz anyone?). The local news don't give a lot of information/updates on the team, etc., etc. Utah is still resistant to soccer as a professional sport. That is why RSL gets crappy TV deals. Most people would prefer watching crappy sitcom reruns over a soccer game.

    An example: my grandfather has watched NFL and NBA since he first got a TV. He'd come to my soccer games, but always said it wasn't a "man's sport". Last year, I got him to sit down and watch a game with me, and now he regularly watches soccer. Sure, this is just one case, but when your major sports broadcasters continue to downplay the sport and team, the fanbase won't grow (David Locke, Alema Harrington, David James, etc.). RSL can push for better deals, but they won't go anywhere unless the viewers show they want it. Just my 2 cents.
     
  19. RedDevil013

    RedDevil013 Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    does this mean no comcast coverage? I know their was last year
     
  20. Blitzz Supporter

    May 23, 2004
    Centerville
  21. Black Prince

    Black Prince Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
  22. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ummm....how is this a step backwards? The same station, available over antenna, and Comcast, and now Dish Network as well. A step back? Help me out here....
     
  23. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, you will get to see all the games. The games that are not on ESPN or FSC will be broadcast on 2.2, channel 111 on comcast, 12 on Dish network, not sure about DTV. I'm not sure what people are expecting. If you actually think a deal with 2, 4, 5, or 13 is going to happen right now, you must be living a different reality than me.
     
  24. Black Prince

    Black Prince Member

    Sep 11, 2006
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    If you are referring to me, it's more of a case of reacting to what was written on the board prior to reading the article linked by Blitz, than being disappointed with what is actually going to occur. But, whatever, I thought that was pretty apparent in the post of mine that you just quoted.
     
  25. Section 5

    Section 5 Member

    Nov 8, 2009
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, I wasn't referring to you. I was confirming that you understood that you would get to see all the games. It's others who are complaining about the TV situation that I am not quite understanding.
     

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