who was your countries best player in the 90s

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  1. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    for peru its a 3way choice betewn

    chemo del solar
    played in chile with some succes played in spain

    nolberto solano
    libertadores runner up in 97 tricampeon with sporting cristal
    went to boca second best player in south america in 97 behind el matador
    went to newcastle for the past 3 seasons has been in the top 3 for assists

    roberto palacios
    top 3 all time goalscorer for peru
    behind 2 greats lolo fernandez of la u and nene cubillas of alianza
    played in mexico with some success
    scored 6 in the 98 qualifying campain for france98 and was our best player by a mile and then some
    played for cruzeiro against borussia dortmund in the intercontinental final

    for me perus best player in the 90s was roberto palacios
    he outperformed both nobby and chemo when he played for the national team and at the end of the day thats all that matters
     
  2. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Earnie Stewart. Maybe Eric Wynalda.
     
  3. NawlinsFats

    NawlinsFats New Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Best player of the 90's

    John Harkes. Period.
     
  4. NawlinsFats

    NawlinsFats New Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Best!

    The first American to excel abroad, in the modern era!
     
  5. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    en colombia solo une: carlos valderrama
    he ended in a bad league.....trying to be competitive

    colombian in the world: faustino asprilla. Again he ended the 90's in a bad note.
     
  6. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You don't think either of the Cordobas deserve any mention?
     
  7. NawlinsFats

    NawlinsFats New Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Colombia?!?

    Asprilla did nothing in 94 and I think he didnt play in 98, correct.
     
  8. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    asprilla did very well in earlier 90's, I was not judging for wc shows (all of them suck air behind rumania, twice)

    the cordobas were hot in the last 5 years! I can not use them as the player of the 90's
     
  9. iansfavouritecopilot

    Jun 21, 2002
    Hartlepool, UK
    Some may argue Paul Gascoigne, but I wouldnt say so.

    Alan Shearer probably. Internationally and Domestically. Scored millions of goals, Championship with Blackburn blah blah blah. Hasnt done that much in European competition though........

    Anyone else........Tony Adams? David Seaman?
    Cant say Andy Cole because he was shockin' for England. Chris Waddle was finished really by 1994 (or before, I cant really remember)

    Cant really say David Beckham or Michael Owen because they didnt come into there own until around 1997/98 time. I was trying to think of players who not only acheived during the decade but also played for most of it.
     
  10. NawlinsFats

    NawlinsFats New Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Gaza on potential. Did Shearer play in the lose to the US during the US Cup? Whoever was to blame for England not qualifying in 94 should not be mentioned.
     
  11. astabo0ty

    astabo0ty New Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    South Florida
    from your list i would choose solano followed very closely by palacios. too bad peru has real good players but do badly in nationals. but where is pizarro? you forget him? all my peruvian friends love him the most.
     
  12. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Well how abour Rincon?
     
  13. iansfavouritecopilot

    Jun 21, 2002
    Hartlepool, UK
    PAH!
    The game that shall not be mentioned.
    The series of events that shall NOT BE MENTIONED!
    Hehee
    Serioulsy......
    There were loads of reasons. I dont wanna get into it because its generally a bad thing, but I will cause Im bored.

    Graham Taylor, and the ensuing 'Do I Not LIke That' deal. Not a bad manager as such, just took over at a bad time. Expectations were high after WC'90 and Bobby Robson did a good job.

    Des Walker couldnt play football after they changed the rule about passbacks to your goalie. David Platt did well but should have done better.
    Tony Adams lost all International confidence after a young Marc Overmars skinned him alive.
    Ronald Koeman shafted England from behind greatly.
    Players like Carlton Palmer, Geoff Thomas, Lee Sharpe, Tony Dorigo, Paul Parker, Gary Pallister, John Barnes, Chris Woods, Tony Daley, Paul Merson (the list could go on and on) would never get in the England squad now. It was just a bad time.
    A very bad time.
    It happens to every national side, where lots of little things add up into one big crisis.
    A mockery of a sham.
     
  14. NawlinsFats

    NawlinsFats New Member

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Not trying to pour salt in your wounds. Any squad that get's beat by an Alexi Lalas header, isn't worthy of this thread. I think Seaman is as much of a twat as you probably do. Sorry, I brought up 2002.
     
  15. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    from ecuador: AGUINAGA, ALEX

    from chile: salas or Zamorano?

    from venezuela: juan arango or R dudamel?

    from Brazil: Romario

    from argentina: Veron o Bati

    you decide!
     
  16. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    pizarro only hit the big time in 2000
    plus he has done absolutly nothing for the national team
     
  17. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    for argie it would have been redondo but he quit thenational team
     
  18. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
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  19. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Bolivia is two, depending on your opinion.

    Etcheverry was just the most exciting player we had in the 90's. What he did in the early 90's just incredible. Unfortunately he was a bit of coke head when young and lost his chance in Spain. Then he had a 2nd chance in Colo Colo and made the most of it but had an ugly injury and hasn't been quite the same player since. Very, very good but not the same.

    Sanchez is not as exciting but a lot more solid. He has really been a star in the Portuguese league and has taken Boavista to their first championship and they are constantly in Europe.

    Other candidates are Castillo and Baldivieso, but while very stylish and with quite a bit of international experience they where a bit short of Etch's and Sanchez's level.
     
  20. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Speaking of Seaman, he showed he's good at letting in relatively harmless free kicks again today against Chelsea. bravo!
     
  21. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    well i thing that my vote goes to...... well asprilla did good games in italy and england... but el pibe was a lesser problems for the team... well i'm not still decided...
     
  22. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    my thoughts

    brasil - romario
    argentina - redondo or batistuta
    colombia - valderrama
    bolivia - etcheverry
    peru - palacios
    chile - zamorano
    ecuador - aguinaga
    paraguay - chilavert
    uruguay - fransescoly
    venezuela - dudamel
     
  23. sydtheeagle

    sydtheeagle New Member

    May 21, 2002
    Oxfordshire
    For my money, where England are concerned:

    Stuart Pearce: The absolute definition of everything a professional footballer should be, and was there for all of England's triumphs in the nineties (such as they were, from WC90 to Euro 96), usually leading the team and taking responsibility directly on his own shoulders. Also played more or less right up to the end of the decade, when he was in his late 30's. Had he been something more glamorous than a full back, he'd have been an international legend which, in any case, he ought to be regardless.

    Paul Gascoigne: I take the point that you can argue it either way, but Gazza, for all his self-imposed limitations was THE face of England in the nineties, and perhaps what gets him the nod for me was that he was a money player...when it mattered, he delivered the goods. From the tears in Germany to the goal against Scotland, when something good happened to England in the nineties, Gazza was usually involved in it. Plus, again, he played throughout the majority of the years in question (when he wasn't injured).

    To me, those are the two. Shearer and Adams are next in line but I don't think they quite reach over the top. Shearer only really delivered the goods from 1996 onwards (as I remember, he didn't exactly light up the international stage for a long time early in his career, and I think he benefitted greatly from the fact that England directed their entire tactical approach around his style of play, thus making him look a more effective player than he perhaps ever really was. Adams, for me, comes closer but, again, I think he is one step short of greatness at international level. Pearce and Gascoigne, but contrast, were true international class.)
     
  24. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia

    estas osando comparar a batistuta con el supertronco de redondo????? estas LOCO LOCO, redondo NUNCA fue bueno, y te atrevez a compararlo con el mayor goleador de la seleccion argentina????.... por dios, hay que ver las cosas que uno encuentra...
     
  25. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    amigo tranquilo en el futbol no todo es gol
    si bien batistuta metio goles el era el mas tronco de los dos
    redodndo era un mediocampista con clase eso lo mostro cuando real gano la copa de campeones
    en el 98 y el 2000

    como futbolista redondo era mas que batistuta
     

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