10 minutes in 3 months: An Adu Loan Story IV (Belenenses)

Paul Scholes is many things....this is not one of them.

 

Not really, Scholes one weakness is his poor tackling. Not a vicious player at all, but his accrued a lot of cards in his career because of it.

You do realize Scholes started out as a striker, spent most of his career playing in the hole behind the front two and as a more general attacking centre midfielder. It's only in the twighlight of his career that he's become a true centre mid.

 

I did not mean literally 10 Messi's. What I was trying to say is that I would rather have 10 highly talented less working individuals than 10 hard working guys with limited talent. The hard working guys would get some results but class would eventually win out. Plus talent is way more entertaining.

 

Yes, i cant say i followed much of scholes or man united, but I speak from the limited stuff i've seen of him lately.

If it was euro soccer for me, i perferred growing up Real Madrid/ Spain or Inter/ Italian Futbol.

 

At ther moment he plays as a very classic centre mid. Comparable to say Riquelme, i.e. knocking the ball around the pitch with pinpoint accuracy.

Earlier he was a very attacking orientated midfielder who also quite often took up his original role of striker when required.

I think despite all the accolades he receives he is still a very underrated player and nowhere more so than England. Part of that may be that he has delibrately choosen to keep a very low media profile from quite early in his career.

 

These are good points and the fact is Scholes has NEVER been a defensive m/f player EVER.

 

I dunno... i mean frmo the limited times i'd watch pieces of man u games, to me he plays pretty deep like a defensive midfielder, and shoots really well outside the box (thinking of that goal vs. barca'), he plays from a pretty deep position but comes up.

Again i dont watch much EPL/ Man U so again, i may be wrong frmo what i saw.

 

Sorry to keep harping but yes you are wrong, Scholes came through the system as a FW and moved to AM with the senior team. Keane was the more defensive of the Scholes/Keane CM. Scholes is one of the worst tacklers you'll ever see, definitely not a DM. He's grow from a nearly pure AM to a well rounded true CM.

 

Thanks.


But I dunno, i dont see much scholes in freddy. I see freddy more as a ronaldinho,del piero, flair type player. He has speed, and quick feet, ability to take people on the dribble, and has good passing ability and to score more so as a forward.

Scholes isnt a right comparison.

 

You’re still really underrating Scholes, if Adu is half the player he would be among the greatest American players ever. Scholes has scored nearly 150 goals for one of the greatest clubs in the world and his goals scoring is really secondary to the rest of his game.

 

He's talking about playing style, not about talent. We get it, you like Scholes.

 

^^^Yep.

 

I know he was talking about style but remember this all started when someone said that Adu should try and emulate Scholes, an AM of similar size and Bolivianfuego implied that Scholes was some common grinder and that Adu was a flair attacker. Scholes is 10x the attacker that Adu is, he just doesn’t do the tricks . Maybe Adu really should try to be more like Scholes, keep it simple and effective.

 

Come on, please. We know you have great respect for scholes, but adu and scholes are two different style of players.

Adu seems to play more like a latin american, where as scholes is english, and does thinks simple and effective. Nothing wrong with that, its just two different styles.

Adu will stay playing that way, its not like a light switch where he can turn it off and say 'hey im going to play the simple scholes way'. He is the way he is, and will most likely stay playing offensive wise as he does.

Thats the problem i think that many adu haters' dont get. People misunderstand his flair as a show off, and want him to 'simplify' his game, and get inline and play simple, and change the way he is as a player.

It doesnt work that way.

 

All I know is that what he's doing now doesn't seem to work for him at the club level so maybe he should try something different. Oh, and can we please stop the childish "hater" nonsense.

 

There is one big difference betwee Scholes and Adu...Scholes has played regularly for one of the best club sides on the planet....and the way things are going Adu will never be able to say that.

 

^Remind me, could Scholes say that when he was 20 years old?

 

At 20 he played 25 games (all comp) scoring 7 goals for a United team that finished 2nd in the Prem. Think Adu will equal those numbers this season?

 

He started for Man Utd when he was 19 in 1994 and made over 20 appearances for the club before he reached 21....I seriously doubt Adu will ever play for a club as big as Manchester United.

 

Does that count as "playing regularly"? Sounds like he was just starting out and getting chances here and there....after being with the club his entire life.

So, as far as what you all think Freddy will do over the next 15 years (till he's as old as Paul Scholes is now), it's nice that you have an opinion....I guess we can check back in 2024 (when Freddy is the same age as Paul Scholes is now) to see if you were right.

 

You must also take into account that Scholes played mostly at FW then and was stuck behind legends such as Hughes and Cantona. Plus 25 games is more than Adu has played in 2 years and 7 club goal is more than he has scored in the last 3 years combind.

I have no idea what the next 15 years will hold for Adu just saying that Scholes would not be a bad player for him to try and emulate.

 

From reading this thread,you'd think Paul Scholes didn't know how to do a backheel or chilena.

 

Well, I think if Adu is to have any future in the game, he's going to need to be more like Scholes than the other players you mention. He has average speed, average quickness, below average strength in holding off bigger guys, and while willing to take people on the dribble, isn't decisive enough after beating the first player.

But, he has a great touch, is a good passer, good reader of the game, and his flair can unbalance defense so everything comes off easier. He's also good on set pieces. To me, that's Paul Scholes. If he could use those strengths, he could be a tremendous asset. But he needs to receive the ball twice as much, and improve his passing range. It wouldn't hurt to develop an outside shot either.

 

At this rate I'd be pleased if Adu was playing for a club as big as Dundee United.

For me, we can talk about playing style, positions, players to emulate, blah, blah, blah. It's all meaningless. It's hard to develop a playing style when you never play. It's hard to emulate Deco or Scholes from the right side of the bench.

I'm not a Freddy hater, but also believe that coaches at Belenenses, Monaco, Benfica, etc. can't all be wrong. These guys aren't idiots. There isn't some vast conspiracy keeping Freddy from getting playing time. They see something in his game to indicate that he's not ready to help them win games. I have no idea what that is, because I never see him play. Nobody does. We're all just blabbing endlessly, when we're all completely ignorant of the situation going on behind the scenes.