What should a player do if he falls down but isn't simulating?

Discussion in 'Referee' started by superdave, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sometimes players just lose their balance in the box and go down. They aren't trying to simulate and get a PK. What should the player do to let the referee know he's not simulating?
     
  2. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    If it was me, I would tell the ref that I did not dive, that I know it wasn't a foul and I fell because I lost my balance.

    The key is to let him know that you did not dispute his call as if you thought he missed a foul call.

    Often times, the ref calls simulating just so he can stop more players from faking it. He is likely to rescind the yellow and not write it down in his report at the end of the game.
     
  3. mkoenig_1

    mkoenig_1 New Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Connecticut
    Get up quickly and continue playing.
     
  4. NHRef

    NHRef Member+

    Apr 7, 2004
    Southern NH
    Don't roll 14 times like you just got shot! :eek:

    It's usually pretty easy to tell a "trying to stay up" vs " no contact I'm going down"
     
  5. LiquidYogi

    LiquidYogi Member

    Sep 3, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    If a player falls down in the box that's no biggie, he was not fouled let play continue. The opposing team might whine about it but there's nothing you can do about it. It's quite obvious when a player is requesting a foul, usually they're very vocal or otherwise spectacular about falling. Use your judgement, be certain when they're trying to gain something they haven't earned. Don't be mean or cruel to a player when it's not needed.

    Heck sometimes after an obvious dive, letting it go but letting the player know he should stay on his feet is enough to stop all further diving attempts.
     
  6. falcon.7

    falcon.7 New Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    At the risk of turning this into a thread of diving, I will retell a short story about Graham Poll:

    So, Poll gets assigned this game between two teams whose forwards are notorious for diving, embellishing, and being general jerks. 4th minute of the game, one of the forwards has the ball, is dribbling in the penalty area, gets bumped, and promptly swan dives/bellyflops likes his legs have been suddenly amputated at the knees. Graham calmly stops running, gives an innocuous tweet on the whistle, signals for a kick coming out, turns his back, and runs away. The game report showed no cards for simulation, no PKs, and the post match news articles contained no mentioned of diving, dubious penalties, or disgruntled defenders (alliteration mine).

    Going back to the OP, if nothing happened, then do nothing. Good opportunity to insert your personality though. For instance, if the ball goes out of play and the player is still down, you might help him up and give him some words of encouragement. Or, if a defender gets grumpy, say something like, "what do you want me to do, card him for being clumsy?".
     
  7. keeper1031

    keeper1031 Member

    Jul 5, 2006
    Cbus ohio
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this kinda situation happend to me once (i am a GK). I went up for a high ball, caught it and lost my balance on my way down. The attacker made minimal contact, and it was very incidential. I see the ref about to slam on his wistle, so i just wave my hand at him and tell him i slipped.

    So hopefully in a situation like this the players can be honest
     
  8. MetroStone

    MetroStone New Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this is what any player would/should do whether fouled or not, just ask the coach


    Another question that is sort of related:

    has anyone had to card a player who WAS fouled but exgerated the the severity of the foul? so, red team gets a direct kick or pk AND the red player receives a caution for exagerating.
     
  9. andymoss

    andymoss BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 4, 2007
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yup. Although I didn't "have" to. But I did anyway. Snipers went home after that.
     
  10. ArgylleRef

    ArgylleRef Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    Lansing, KS
    You've got to elaborate, Andy. No fun without the war story!
     
  11. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Being a somewhat clumsy player, I had this happen a couple of times to me during my playing days. I used to just yell out "Sorry!" to make it clear to the opponent and referee that I was accepting the blame for the fall.

    Always seemed to work. The idea of waving away the whistle with an explanation like "slipped!" is also a good one. If the referee is going to call a foul he'll be looking straight at you.
     
  12. mkoenig_1

    mkoenig_1 New Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Connecticut
    That's my point. I believe that is the best way to signal that you are not simulating.

    With regard to your point about asking the coach, unfortunately I suspect that some players are coached to "go down easily" in the attacking third.

    M
     
  13. intechpc

    intechpc Member

    Sep 22, 2005
    West Bend, WI
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To the OP's question, I gotta agree that all the player needs to do is get back up and keep playing. Flops are usually pretty obvious to spot (and they have to be if I'm going to take the risk of issuing a caution for it). First, they're usually pretty spectacular in nature and look a lot different than a player who is going down but trying not to. Second, the flop is almost always followed by a look to the referee to see if he saw it and if he's going to call it. Third, if the foul is not called, the flop is usually followed by some form of dissent.

    If I can see the player is trying not to fall down and he's not looking at me to determine if I'm going to call it or not, that is the best way to signal to me that it was just a slip and not an attempt to deceive.
     

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