DT de Ecuador

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  1. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    During the games this weekend from the ecua league some of the commentators were talking about Bauza and Chiriboga negotiating this week and other news about him being the new coach for our NT.
     
  2. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    futbolecuador also said that Chiriboga was meeting up with Bauza to take over the NT...but that they would likely offer him less money than he made with Liga...wtf is that shit? It's not like the federacion is poor. So IF we lose Bauza due to payment disputes, not only will Chiriboga still be considered a fool, but he'll be a cheap bastard as well.
     
  3. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    exactly, he's retarded. he just gets worse and worse. why would you offer less money to Bauza than what Liga offered? if anything, Bauza is more experienced now and should obviously be an expensive acquisition...what an idiot Chiriboga is, if he lets this chance go i think he should just leave..
     
  4. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    It sounds like the 1st order of business is to get rid of Chiriboga, THEN get a manager!
     
  5. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    I'd have to agree with Cris on this one. Chiriboga is the public enemy
     
  6. DoOviD

    DoOviD New Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    Club:
    Deportivo Cuenca
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    what pisses me off is the fact that Chiriboga always does huevadaz when hiring new coaches. Last time when we hired Sixto.. so many players backed out of playing cuz they did not like the new manager... Valencia, mendez and others had to be begged to come play for our national team.. Knowing the caliber our our current squad.. what is this guy thinkin by offering DTs like Bauza less money than they were payed at their clubs?!? Makes no sense.. and you see why the players dont want to come play for our jersey.. they are asking themselves the same things we do.. haha
     
  7. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    lets not forget how Chiriboga also is the king of procrastination. Sixto was picked only because courting Bolillo Gomez to come back was a major PR flop, but also the simple fact that there was no clear and concrete list of coaches to come in. I think we went a few months without a coach before Sixto was actually removed of the "provisional" coach. Mendez definitely took issue with Sixto's appointment, I don't remember Valencia, but others were definitely skeptical. Now that we didn't qualify, not only does Sixto look bad for failing after having countless opportunities but Chiriboga has egg on his face for hiring Sixto.
     
  8. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    just b/c Chiriboga wanted to save money....that's the only reason Vizuete was ever our NT coach. Chiriboga is trying to have Bauza be our NT coach for minimum wage or something LOL GET OUT OF HERE...Where's he stuffing all that money?? Obviously he wants to save it for some reason...brain transplant im guessing
     
  9. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    It comes down to two people. Fossati or Bauza.

    I rather have Fossati as Coach. More experienced and i just love the way he coaches. He always goes for the throat and encourages it to his players. Even when Liga Played Madrid. he went for it, Never backed down and took Liga's futbol to them. If he would have started Dominquez in the 1st half and Cevallos in the 2nd, than Liga would have probably beat or at least tied Real Madrid and went further in the Peace Cup.

    Bauza is a great coach that made history but i hated the fact that in the CWC Final against Manchester United. It seemed that he was content with not getting raped. Liga played extremely conservative even after MAN U went down a man. It reminded me of Luis Suarez approach to the Ecuador vs England game in the WC.

    Just my opinion.
     
  10. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT



    This is an interesting dynamic that you just brought to the argument...Sort of makes me wonder now. I think either of the 2 coaches would be great for the seleccion and would definitely be a step up from Sixto Vizuete or bringing back El Bolillo.
     
  11. ECUAlex

    ECUAlex Member

    Feb 24, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    Yeah I have to agree on Fossati because he definitely knows how to make liga play as a team. I actually like the way this team plays more than the one from the libertadores even though its not as exciting. He could do the same with Ecuador but we would have to hurry up because I was watching ecuavisa and they said he had offers from Peru!!!!:eek: It would be sad to lose such a great coach to them lol
     
  12. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    Fossati will fail just like when he failed with Uruguay.
     
  13. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    I like how both coaches motivate the players, especially Fossati. Fossati has Liga remain aggressive in most games. I feel like Fossati has also had more time with lots of our players and possibly even understands them more than Bauza. Our collective play also became a bit better with Fossati, we don't rely so much on the Manso's, Guerron's, or Bolanos' of the team and what they do individually.

    Bauza made Liga into one HELL of a quick team. We didn't score as much when Bauza was in charge but it was way more exciting. We also have to see that Liga didn't rely much on Bieler when Bauza was there....and if you take this into consideration for our NT....we don't have a good striker. In the Libertadores Bieler scored 3 goals if im not mistaken....in the Sudamericana this year Bieler scored 8 so far. Big difference in the way both coaches rely/don't rely much on their strikers. Fossati seems to rely more on a striker (which our NT doesn't have). Bauza knows how to work his way around it even if we don't have a good striker.

    Obviously both coaches have used completely different formations and styles of playing. We just have to see which one will be more effective and adaptable for our NT players. IMO it's Bauza.
     
  14. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    but I bet Chiriboga is flying first class to Argentina and staying at a 5 star hotel...para eso siempre hay dinero. I want to know what the hell they've done with the millions of dollars they've hauled in through TV deals, ticket sales and merchandising. If Chile can pay 1.8 million for Bielsa, wtf is our Federation doing....



    Encuentro clave en Buenos Aires
    Chiriboga conversará con Bauza en la capital argentina
    2009-11-26 15:36:16
    Guayaquil

    El presidente de la Federación Ecuatoriana de Fútbol (FEF) viajará con destino ríoplatense para asistir a una reunión FIFA. Aprovechando su estadía en Argentina, Luis Chiriboga tendrá un acercamiento con Edgardo Bauza.

    “Voy a estar en Buenos Aires, por que de ahí tomo un vuelo directo hasta la ciudad del Cabo, donde tengo la reunión de la Comisión Organizadora del Mundial de Sudáfrica 2010, esto es el 2 de diciembre”, señaló el mandamás de la Ecuafútbol en declaraciones a la prensa porteña.

    Chiriboga reveló que le propondrá al Patón el timón de la Tricolor, “estaré en Argentina dos días y si tengo la oportunidad de saludarlo al profesor (Edgardo Bauza), me daría enorme satisfacción poder hacerlo. No tenemos con él nada concreto, pero si hay la posibilidad de concretar algo, lo haré con mucho gusto”.

    Además, el directivo anunció que hay tres en carpeta. “Nuestras opciones están fijadas en tres nombres. Conversaremos lo mas pronto con Bauza, con (Jorge) Fossati somos muy respetuosos y esperaremos que termine el año y su continuidad o no en Liga de Quito. Mientras que con (Sergio) Markarián lo haremos el próximo mes”, indicó.

    Pero el anuncio del nuevo DT de la Selección tardará un poco mas de lo esperado, principalmente por razones financieras. “Lo contrataremos mas o menos para mayo o junio, cerca del Mundial. Si podemos hacerlo antes mejor, pero tenemos que analizar mucho lo económico, porque yo he sido muy enfático en expresar que no voy a vender el edificio de la Federación para contratar un técnico”.

    “Tenemos que estirar los pies hasta donde nos de la sabana, pero siempre haciendo el esfuerzo necesario para tener un buen estratega, de prestigio y que haya conseguido cosas importantes”, sentenció el directivo. Ecuador ya tiene a los tres candidatos para el proyecto Brasil 2014.
    (DEO)
    http://www.futbolecuador.com/stories/publica/11010
     
  15. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    I agree, but if Chiriboga can pull this off, hell, I'd pay for that upgrade myself.
    If Bauza comes to Ecuador, I'm cool with the perks, but I want results. It's simple business 101.
     
  16. Guayaquileño

    Guayaquileño Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    New York City
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    we are better with Bauza.. Fossati's methods are good in a club team. his very offensive game works with liga and in small part to the altitude of Quito. I'm not saying he would fail as an NT coach, but at international level, playing this offensively and fast paced will leave the team with huge gaps and weak points, and on top of that we are in a stage in which we are re-building our NT's defence basically.

    Bauza's more careful but equally effective plan is more conservative but at the same time more balanced, and it would serve an NT better, because it's a different game, and not too much can be risked. Bauza is offensive when he deems it necessary but cautious as well when he sees it fit.
     
  17. Guayaquileño

    Guayaquileño Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    New York City
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    So Markarian is the man ?
     
  18. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    apparently Fossati is going to talk to the federacion about the offer...that's what my cousin told me.
     
  19. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    prefiero a Markarian que ha tenido exito con seleccion, en cambio fossati es un patan.
     
  20. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE PROCRASTINATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F*CKING CHIRIBOGA, we lost another one...and he was third on the list, the backup of a backup lol...Makarian is going to Qatar. wtf are they doing at the federacion?!! it's time for letters guys...did anyone else write to the federacion?



    Se agotan las opciones
    Markarián conduciría un equipo de Qatar
    2009-12-11 10:36:41
    Quito

    De acuerdo a la información publicada este viernes en la página web oficial de la Federación Ecuatoriana de Fútbol (FEF), Sergio Markarían estaría presto a firmar con un club de medio oriente. Mientras dan lo de Jorge Fossati por descartado.

    Al parecer, el ingeniero Luis Chiriboga se va quedando sin alternativas para elegir al nuevo director técnico de la Selección Ecuatoriana. La idea del presidente de la FEF, de no nombrar al nuevo DT hasta después o durante el Mundial, se convirtió en el rival principal para acertar con los estrategas en carpeta.

    Tras el desacierto con Edgardo Bauza (que terminó firmando con Liga Deportiva Universitaria), Jorge Fossati se convertía en la primera opción. Sin embargo, un día después de la caída del Albo frente al Club Sport Emelec, desde Brasil ya lo daban como el nuevo comandante del Internacional de Porto Alegre.

    Este fin de semana, el uruguayo del vozarrón le dará su respuesta a los directivos del club gaúcho, mientras analiza la opción de dirigir la Tricolor. De acuerdo a la prensa brasilera, Fossati estaría llegando el próximo martes a Porto Alegre, acompañado de su cuerpo técnico. El técnico charrúa pidió un tiempo para analizar las opciones. Ambas lo seducen.

    Mientras el ex timonel de la U se debate entre el Inter y La Tri, Sergio Markarían, el tercero en la lista de Chiriboga, se desplazará este viernes hacia Qatar, acompañado por su empresario, donde podría definir su vinculación a un club de ese país.
    (DEO)
     
  21. pepe pancho

    pepe pancho Member

    May 30, 2009
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    WOW I saw that coming already when the first two candidates got discarded....WTF Chiriboga is ********ing stupid who waits until June after not qualfying to the world cup to pick a new coach.He needs to leave...we need change and he's not making it.We lost three good coaches due to stupid procrastination.Now what's going to happen.

    I damn,well know Vizuete cannot come back to la seleccion!
     
  22. Quilotoa

    Quilotoa Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    Brasilia, Brazil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    Chiriboga NEEDS TO LEAVE!! This is TOO ****ing frustrating. If nothing happens by March this is going to be a HORRIBLE start for qualifying next year. Problems with the FEF will be the #1 problem for la seleccion.
     
  23. pepe pancho

    pepe pancho Member

    May 30, 2009
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    for sure,I wouldn't be surprised that we would lose to Venezuela in Qutio again if we don't hve a coach by the first three months,how is it possible to lose all the candidates for coaches this quickly.He should have just picked a guy already and organize a friendly against a classy team-England,France,Argentina...any powerhouse team or even Greece.,Slovenia or Slovakia.

    Chirboga is an idiot how can you not choose a coach for that much timee,he's dilerious.Does anybody know what's going on with new candidates now?
     
  24. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    What did I JUST SAY like 2 days ago!?!? we're gonna be left WITHOUT a SINGLE DAMN OPTION. Chiriboga IS the main problem for the NT now and I swear he's doing this on purpose now. Now what? Fossati is gonna say no to the NT, he doesn't seem ready to assume that position...if he were he would take it on the spot. Chiriboga isn't understanding the harm he's causing for the NT, everyone is going to hate him after this EVERYONE. I hope he isn't president for much longer.


    On another note, let me say this....we're having Vizuete take charge of a game against Peru in Spain when hes ALREADY been given the boot??! Do some of you really think he made the official squad list?! LOL nooo way, that ish was also made by Chiriboga and the FEF.
     
  25. pepe pancho

    pepe pancho Member

    May 30, 2009
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Re: Ecuador's DT

    complete disaster,after losing every option for coaches...we'll probably end up with a guy like el Chamo Del Solar and we're going to make a crappola fest in the next qualifiers.Chiriboga is a deadman,honestly,he had the chance to pick a new guy but nooo.....he said lets wait,and now look what happens.

    Hopefully,he brings in some new candidates to replace all of them,and I hope their good coaches....I'm thinking Basile,Bianchi,Anibal Ruiz,Ever Hugo Almeida,Jose Pekerman
     

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