Brasileirão 2009 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil: Clubs and Competitions' started by footaddicts_brazil, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    Re: Palmeiras [R]

    10 goals or more in league play....he has one of the best strike-rates
    20 goals or more in competition....he also has one of the best strike-rates

    goals per touches/seconds on the ball.....he is numero uno:D
     
  2. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Re: Palmeiras [R]

    How many of those were penalties?

    Also, in the Brasileirão, Ronaldo scored 10 goals in 16 games, a 0.63 goal rate.
    Adriano scored 17 in 25, a 0.68 goal rate. Definitely not the best strike rate.
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Re: Palmeiras [R]

    At least 3 from PKs.
     
  4. reelmaad

    reelmaad New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    Re: Palmeiras [R]

    I said.....one of....the best strike rates.

    Its goals per touches/seconds on the ball.....that i said R9 was numero uno in.

    Talking about Pks....doesn't Adriano have more of them than R9
     
  5. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Re: Palmeiras [R]

    Nope, we rarely get any PKs. The last PK we received, Petkovic took it. I remember Adriano taking 4: @ SPFC, @ Goias, vs Inter, vs. Palmeiras.

    Goals/per touches on the ball? Where did you come up with something like that? I'm moving these posts to the Brasileirao forum since this is the wrong spot to discuss this topic.

    Ronaldo has the same strike rate as Wellington Paulista throughout all competitions. Diego Tardelli has 38 goals in all competitions and I'm sure that's far better than Ronaldo. Adriano has 17 only playing the Brasileirão and Ronaldo only has a mere 21, including facing weak teams in the Paulista and early stages of the Copa do Brasil.
     
  6. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ronaldo probably has the highest goal/distance ran average :p
     
  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He's just trying to find some reason in which he stands out from the rest. Unfortunately, Ronaldo hasn't done anything to be called up again. He pretty much did what a lot of people expected him to do.

    1) Injury-free: He got hurt a few times during the year, including a month and half long hiatus. Most people predicted he would get hurt and he did.

    2) Physical form: He is still as round as a ball. His form improved very slightly around the time of the final of the Copa do Brasil, but it has dipped back down to where it was when he first signed. He complained about playing more than once a week and he had to be rested on many occassions. How is that helping the team at all?

    3) Performances: His best performances came in competitions many people don't care much about and versus inferior competition. Many people want to get rid of the Estadual and the Copa do Brasil is known in Brazil as the "Copa dos Desclasificados" (Cup of Disqualified teams from the Libertadores). In the Brasileirão, his performances do not stand out above the rest. Those who have performed at a high level(Diego Tardelli and Adriano) were given a chance by Dunga. Ronaldo better start lighting the scoreboards up if he wants a chance, because he has lots of work to do.
     
  8. StrokingMonkeys

    Oct 4, 2009
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Ronaldo is waiting for the Libertadores next year to HOPE that Dunga picks him up. Quite the gamble honestly.

    To be fair, the Corinthians administrators are also waiting for the Libertadores (hence, they sold almost everything of value once they qualified for the Libertadores through the Copa do Brasil <_< )

    That whole Corinthians crew will live or die by the Libertadores sword. Dangerous gamble.
     
  9. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    They've already tried building a super team when MSI was funding them and that turned out to be a complete disaster in the Libertadores. They made the mistake Flamengo made last year when they were the undisputed leader of the Brasileirão, selling their players. They had an established core that could have done better in the Brasileirão and probably would have generated more money in the Libertadores next year than the actual sales themselves.
     
  10. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He is not waiting for anything. He is what he is. Fat guy, injury stricken but with good finishing touch. And it won't change. As far as Selecao goes, he is damaged goods.
     
  11. StrokingMonkeys

    Oct 4, 2009
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    I definitely agree, but in his mind, it seems that that's what he's waiting for.

    In some interview, Burger King said he was going to "show his stuff" in the Libertadores (or some nonesense like that). Oh myyyyyyy.

    I wish him/them good luck with that "mindset".

    Ronaldinho now knows he can't "wait" for better days/moments to really show his stuff, so he's trying to impress now (also helps that the Milan crowd and bosses EXPECT more for their money while Corinthians are just happy selling shirts with Ronaldo's name on it). As Ronaldo will find out, you just can't "turn it on" like a switch.

    Ronaldinho is physically fit again, but his form is still painfull to watch (getting better, but not Selecao material yet). Ronaldo may be scoring, but is that WC level stuff? Not too sure about that. Ronaldo is Ronaldo, but there's limits, even for him.
     
  12. StrokingMonkeys

    Oct 4, 2009
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Oh man, don't remind me!

    Mexican fiasco :eek:
     
  13. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not to discredit him, because goals are goals, but most of his recent goals have been of the garbage variety. The goal vs SPFC was a gimme. The 2nd goal vs Palmeiras was a mistake by an inexperienced goalie and so on. I think the last goal he scored that I remember being nice was when he destroyed Fluminense way back.
     
  14. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras

    >.> doubting the prowess of Il Fenomeno I see.
     
  15. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Even Ronaldo himself, in a recent interview, admitted what we have all been telling you Ronaldo fanboys. He is fat. He claims that he will achieve ideal fitness and performance in 2010 for Dunga to call him up, so we will see. As for 2009, he is what most people here said he would be. Fat, injured, and score few goals, mostly on weak competition.
     
  16. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    SPFC beats Vitoria today, 2x1, adding pressure to Flamengo for tomorrow.

    According to my calculations, Fla will need to win 3/4, and draw one(my guess Corinthians) and SPFC will have to lose to Botafogo next week and draw Goias in Goiânia for us to take the title by 1 pt. I doubt SPFC will lose to Sport and Goiás has been playing poorly as of late, so I'm not sure. It would be better if Fla would win their last 4 games. Case in point, they can't lose.
     
  17. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    ...everything against Fla.
     
  18. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    In the begining, I thought - why they have no "playoff" - elimination scheme??
    Now the way it is going, this has to be the most exciting ending!
    A team can end up Champion based on the results of some other game being played elsewhere, and right now we have no less than 6 teams still "alive" vying for the championship!

    Any palpites out there? Is Fluminense going to avoid rebaixamento??
     
  19. pb9000

    pb9000 Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Lauderhill, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    In Miami you have to know Spanish, otherwise you will not survive!

    I was In Miami once several years ago for a wedding - everybody I dealt with spoke spanish, including a taxicab driver who spoke only spanish! LOL
     
  21. kingkong1

    kingkong1 New Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Rio, Brazil
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Looks like Flamengo threw its chance away last Sunday (tied Goiás 0 x 0), but with two rounds to go the difference to São Paulo is so tight (1 point) that if in the next round it ties with Corinthians (away game) & São Paulo loses to Goiás (away game), the championship will only be decided in the last round in the goal average (if both beat Grêmio & Sport respectively at home)! :eek: ...

    Fluminense is just 2 points away from Botafogo, Coritiba and Atlétco-PR & still has 2 games to go...

    It's got reasonable chances to escape (hopefully in detriment of one of the Paraná clubs!) :eek: ...
     
  22. pb9000

    pb9000 Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Lauderhill, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've survived in Miami for 40 years without Spanish. What I am learning is Portuguese.
     
  23. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
  24. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    im pulling for Flu just for the fact that i do wanna see 4 RJ teams next season. and Fred doesn't deserve to go down. especially they way he has been performin,
     
  25. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ronaldo goes scoreless and Fred scores yet another goal. He has a better strike rate than Ronaldo. Val Baiano also has a better strike rate.
     

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