If the US has to play a CONEMBOL team...

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Thecole, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    You're on crack cocaine.
     
  2. DestroyerDaMarc

    Dec 8, 2005
    New York
    Club:
    Newcastle Jets
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Nah; he just doesn't realize that if the US fail to make a World Cup it derails soccer tremendously in this nation.
     
  3. Nic D in BIG D!

    Nic D in BIG D! New Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    DFW
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    So much hilarity in that post!

    Must of run into BB, Diego and Doug! :D
     
  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    If the U.S. fails to make the World Cup we'll be outdrawn by El Salvador fans at home next cycle...oh wait.
     
  5. withoutthee88

    withoutthee88 Red Card

    Aug 23, 2008
    Chicago/USA
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    No man it was 90-10 US fans, we were just all wearing blue as well so you might have mistaken some Americans as actually being El Salvador supporters. :rolleyes:
     
  6. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Just to state the obvious, the top 4 teams are already decided. T&T and El Salvador are out of consideration. Now it's just a competition to see who wins the group and who gets to play COMNEBOL #5.

    Likely outcomes:

    El Salvador v Costa Rica => draw
    Trinidad and Tobago v USA => USA wins
    Mexico v Honduras => Mexico wins
    Honduras v USA => Honduras wins
    Mexico v El Salvador => Mexico wins
    Costa Rica v Trinidad and Tobago => Costa Rica wins
    El Salvador v Honduras => draw
    Trinidad and Tobago v Mexico => draw
    USA v Costa Rica => USA wins

    USA 13 pts + 6 = 19 pts (ahead on GD)
    Mexico 12 pts + 7 = 19 pts
    Honduras 13 pts + 4 = 17 pts
    Costa Rica 12 pts + 4 = 16 pts => plays Argentina
     
  7. IKickAndIm50

    IKickAndIm50 Member

    Apr 13, 2009
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Argentina isnt going to be 5th place lol

    the USA isnt going to be 4th place lol

    stupuid worry warts
     
  8. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    if we play we need to play in Green Bay (or hell even Anchorage) ......
     
  9. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    this has nothing to do with weather... it has EVERYTHING to do with ticket allocation. No way this match goes anywhere but Columbus if USSF wants us to avoid being outdrawn.
     
  10. Justin Z

    Justin Z Member

    Jul 12, 2005
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Club:
    Heart of Midlothian FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

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  11. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    While showing that the US is in position to win the Hex, MarioKempes' analysis shows just how close this could be for the US. Even with a win at T&T tomorrow, if followed by a loss at Honduras, the US could very easily be sitting on 16 points and playing Costa Rica in the final game in what is effectively a 1st place/4th place game! Edge to the home team of course, but certainly nothing guaranteed.

    The big question looking at these projections is who is going to slip up and not grab "predicted" points. There is not much room for error as this is very tight.
     
  12. bluewolverine

    bluewolverine Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Can't see an already eliminated T&T drawing Mexico... so they win the group, but other than that, I'm with you.
     
  13. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    It goes without saying that these matches are unusually difficult to predict.
    The home team in the hex has enjoyed a 15-3-2 record.
    Although T and T's size and athletic ability has proven to be an absolute nightmare for the Mexicans in the past, T and T by your accounts will have been eliminated by the final match. I think Mexico is going to beat them and win the hex.
    I also have to say, I do not believe Argentina will be the team waiting in the playoff match. If they beat Peru at home (almost assuredly will happen) they will qualify. Venezuela and Columbia appear to have the easiest route to 5th place. The Connebol finish and effort at the 5th place playoff spot might be even more of a crapshoot than our own.
    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/matches/index.html
     
  14. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    hello - did you not notice the sarcasm? ..... If we get to the point of having to compete via playoff - then we have some serious problems ....

    on the other hand - I was in Columbus way back when (was it 2001 spring?) Mexico froze their arses off in a Feb WCQ ... separate from the game and the competition - it was hilarious to see the TriColores play there. It seriously got into their minds.

    if they play a game in Anchorage in the late fall there will not be many South American fans there either. Nor would there be that many South American fans in Green Bay (do they even know where it is?) ... So how do I translate the term "cheesehead" into Spanish? :D

    but seriously let's not be too serious here ... I was joking about this.
     
  15. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Good thing that won't be a problem for USMNT tonight, with so many here predicting a resounding win as a foregone conclusion. T&T really should have difficulty in our third; we should be able to solve their defense over 90 minutes. I want to be saying you told me so after the match. We desperately need the first goal tonight.
     
  16. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    exactly

    what we need to do is to win at T&T tonight and see what happens with the rest - take it one game at a time .... the equation works - win at home and draw on the road .... we just need to take care of business .. if we cannot put together a good game plan and win at T&T at this point - then what does that say about our squad and their chances in South Africa.

    we just need 3 points tonight and not worry about the rest for now.
     
  17. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Assuming Ecuador has extreme difficulty and loses in the lofts of La Paz this afternoon and Uruguay holds serve in Montevideo defeating Colombia, Uruguay will be sitting in CONMEBOL 5th on 21 pts after MD16, with Argentina in 4th on something between 22 and 25 pts (Ecuador and Colombia would be sitting on 20 pts each, with Ecuador presumably maintaining the GD over Colombia).
     
  18. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Assumption is in Paraguay, but where's Presumption?
     
  19. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Cabron
     
  20. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Whelp...Ecuador navigated the altitude in La Paz just fine winning 3-1, and for the moment sits in 4th place with 23 pts.
     
  21. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
  22. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Indianapolis
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    The elephant in the room just met Bungalow Bill.
     
  23. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Think you meant Bob the Builder - Cya in 4.
     
  24. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill

    He went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun
    In case of accidents he always took his mom
    He's the all American bullet-headed Saxon mother's son
    All the children sing

    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill

    Deep in the jungle where the mighty tiger lies
    Bill and his elephants were taken by surprise
    So Captain Marval zapped him right between the eyes
    All the children sing

    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill

    The children asked him if to kill was not a sin
    "Not when he looked so fierce" his mommy butted in
    If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him
    All the children sing

    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey, Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
    Hey Bungalow Bill
    What did you kill, Bungalow Bill
     
  25. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    Re: The Elephant in the Room

    Anger Management classes available for cheap at the local junior college!
     

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