Funnily enough, Raul did exactly the same as Rooney in Madrid's match at the weekend and we haven't heard a peep about that, have we? And just so you're aware, UEFA don't hold sway over Premier League matches.
I guess the "not caught" dive that resulted in a PK that is converted can drastically change the course of a game. While if the ref catches it, the game proceeds as it should. Either way ... this is complete BS. It won't stop a player from diving in a final for example. What does he care that he may be banned for the next 2 games ?
Because they don't claim their players don't dive. The fans don't look down on it diving as the British do.
Eh? It was a ridiculous suspension by UEFA, because of a dive by a Croation\Brazilian, which was missed by a Spanish Ref. Apart from one Scotsman who thinks he's more important than he is, what has that got to do with 'Everything to hate about Britain'?
But surely it is the intent of any indescretion that is punished, not the outcome. Under the Laws of the Game, a player should receive the same punishment for attempting to strike someone as for striking them. A trip is a trip, regardless of whether the fouled player breaks his leg or simply gets back up again. The fact that Eduardo pulled off a "better" dive than Gilardino attempted at Celtic the other year doesn't mean the offence is any worse, yet Gilardino got a yellow card and Eduardo misses two games.
So with UEFA's new hardline, are they going to be more lenient if you admit it......I'm guessing no. If they push this forward and it does cut down on simulation, FIFA will take up the rule. That means other countries federations that dont follow are in trouble in all FIFA competitons. I fear for South America.
Was it a dive by either Rooney or Raul though? http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf Did Rooney actually seek to deceive the officials by pretending to be fouled given that Almunia was all set to foul him? Had Almunia not touched him then I would say yes, but as he was subsequently fouled (regardless of him going down) can you really say he committed a cautionable offence based on the above?
I didn't see Raul's play. But I think Rooney was getting ready to dive. Just my opinion. I think he purposely dragged his foot expecting contact. Either way it was a PK. But there is no question he has dived in the past. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXw7Xk4hk-Q"]YouTube - Wayne Rooney dive[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2sohlAv04"]YouTube - Wayne Rooney Manchester United Dive Blackburn[/ame]
The very same argument could be made for McGeady. Although not by me obviously, as I have a personal bias in it. But Hanlon, the Hibernian defender, fell as well, trying to avoid impact, just as McGeady did. Worth bearing in mind that a free kick can be given without contact having taken place.
No question whatsoever. A lot of English fans seem to think diving is a recent thing over here as a result of those sneaky foreigners. Franny Lee was pretty well known for it in the early seventies (and set a record for most penalties in a season) and it's more likely that the increase in cameras has highlighted it more over the past 15 years than in the past.
I thought that Hanlon fell in attempting to avoid fouling McGeady (and I think he avoided it quite well) whereas McGeady went down expecting to be clipped in the process. I've got no problem with players going down in that situation (anticipating a foul), but if the defender manages to avoid commiting the foul then you have to take the punishment. Yes but there has to be an attempt to trip made by the defender. In the Hanlon/McGeady incident McGeady was expecting a challenge that didn't come, whereas Rooney was expecting a challenge which was made.
And, never shall his name be besmirched, like the devil eyed diving infidels of the southern regions where the sun is so hot, tis said a man would lose his mind on the hot arid Spanish strand, should he walk for but an hour neath the noon day sun, for we all know, brave young Wayne Rooney of the Moors, only lives and dreams to play clean, pure, English football and to have a pint with the lads at the pub, before nipping off to steal an innocent and dreary kiss with sweet and true Abigail, the vickers daughter, an English Rose who lives up the swain, just a furlong from Sir Alex's rustic cottage, where the lads often retire after the match for a bit of rarebit and roasted cheddar and to hear the gaffers many tales of the true hard life in the north country and his days in the mines, before the war with the Argies, that finally freed the Falklands from the diving tossers....
Obviously biased, but where is this "obviously about to dive" stuff coming from? It looked to me like he was stretching for the ball. Therefore there's an alternative possibilty, hence it's not "clear", thus making it different to the Eduardo scenario. This is of course assuming that Arsena was wrong and he wasn't hurling himself to safety in the wake of a Taylor PTSD flashback.
Dont expect any kind of answer to your question. Nobody from England had anything to do with the ban or Eduardo's actions. Purely down to UEFA. Digging up old examples of Rooney serves what purpose??? Inventing a strawman to attack people who had nothing to with the incident. That clown who you quoted even claims to be a "chelsea fan".
I'm all for rules that eliminates diving. You can gain so much from a dive yet recieve such weak punishment if you are caught. A blatant dive (more than Eduardo's) should be an instant red card. On top of that there should be suspensions to follow.
How about we also punish the defenders who commit PKs that are not seen by the ref and don't admit it was a PK ?
oh oh! John Terry says its all down to the dishonest Foreign Mentality! John Terry blames diving on 'foreign mentality' in Premier League LMAO English are honest / Foreigners are dishonest
How dare you even suggest otherwise! Everyone in England plays the game under the Corinthian spirit, and it's only these dastardly foreigners bringing their underhand tactics over here that undermines everything the English player stands for. They don't even have the decency to speak our language, coming over here taking our jobs. This used to be a mans game, I just don't know where it all went wrong! I really must stop reading the tabloids.
No one is saying anything because there is nothing to say. Raul was tripped up by the keeper unlike Rooney who was dragging his foot and already on his way down when the goalkeeper touched him. One is a clear penalty while the other obvious dive more a player known for diving/cheating/decieving the match official . [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI_1X6naXmg"]YouTube - Ronaldo scores Penalty Real Madrid - Deportivo August 29, 2009 La Liga Round 1[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0UdpLNiD-o"]YouTube - Wayne Rooney - The great thing is that he's English[/ame]
Rooney has a long way to go to reach the cynical and systematic diving of so many German, Spanish and Italian players. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP5mLY16xTc"]YouTube - Football Dives - Ultimate complilation[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AzSfiMTr38"]YouTube - Best of cheating football dives[/ame] It way past the time for an Arsenal player to get punished for diving, they've been by far the worst offenders in the Premiership. Robert Pires alone has more blatant dives in his carer than the sum total of every English player who ever lived.
^ Robert Pires, despite being a diver never came out and said "I honest and never dive". Rooney and Gerrard had the audacity to do that. It's mind boggling really.