Altitude: Advantage at Rio Tinto

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by wcssstar33, Aug 29, 2009.

  1. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously it isn't as high up as Azteca, but our NT will have a full week to prepare for playing at 4,450 ft. While it isn't a mile up, it certainly cannot be ignored. Is this going to make a difference come saturday?
     
  2. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    Well... the effect of altitude is not like a sliding scale with height, so altitude sickness won't be a factor here. It may have some effect as like you say the height isn't negligible.

    It's worth pointing out there will be higher stadiumns in the coming World Cup (infact a lot of the 2010 stadiums are at approximately this height).
     
  3. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Takes about 2 weeks to adjust to higher altitude (like 7000+ feet). Not sure about 4500 ft, though.
     
  4. UPinSLC

    UPinSLC Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    SL,UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes, it could be a factor. after about 60-70 minutes your legs become very heavy and its much more difficult to breath, especially if you have lived and trained at sea level for some time. when i go home to visit my parents and i play pick up games with friends i get tired after 30 minutes of hard playing (im only 24). i lived in salt lake city for 20 years, portland for the last 4+, altitude does play a role.
     
  5. euroman 4

    euroman 4 Member

    Jan 23, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would be surprised to see El Salvador use much energy early. They will likely sit back (bunker) for the first 60-70 minutes with an occasional counter attack unless we score a couple early and then it probably doesn't matter what they do or how they feel any way.
     
  6. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fans will be an advantage. This won't be an RFK or Chicago mess.
     
  7. Bigrose30

    Bigrose30 Member+

    Sep 11, 2004
    Jersey City, NJ
    There will be a pro-US crowd, a manicured field, mild weather, and no air raid sirens.

    Advantage US.
     
  8. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
    the 417
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3-0 USA. Mexico loses to CR. HON beats TT 1-0. USA in 2nd place, 4 points up from 4th with 9 points remaining.
     
  9. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    How high is Estadio Cuscatlan?
     
  10. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    how many of our starters play at elevation?
     
  11. Beastmode21

    Beastmode21 Member+

    United States
    Jan 19, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I recently moved up to Rexburg, Idaho(3500 ft.) from Natchitoches, Louisiana(30 ft.) and joined a soccer team up hear and I was huffing and puffing for about a week and a half. spoiler, I'm not a world class athlete. I would say our guys are going to be fine. They seemed fine last time they played in Salt Lake City and they played at Rice-Eccles which is even higher than Rio Tinto although not by much.
     
  12. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Current forecast calls for a high of 73 and rain on Saturday...
     
  13. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Bluecat, I'm looking at 79F, partly cloudy, only 20pct chance of rain for Sandy, Utah this Saturday. ???

    Regardless, this far out, the forecast is likely to change between now and then.
     
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  14. HSEUPASSION

    HSEUPASSION New Member

    Apr 16, 2005
    Duck, NC
    One or two. Charlie Davies and possibly Kyle Beckerman. Casey, Torres and Findley probably won't start, may not even play.

    El Salvador? Probably two.

    It's not really an advantage.
     
  15. BirdsonFire

    BirdsonFire Member

    May 9, 2008
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    i know


    i really think this is an idiotic thread
     
  16. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know it isn't huge, but we get a full week at this altitude to train, so we will adjust by game time.

    After all of the azteca stuff, I figured it was worth mentioning.
     
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  17. stucknutah

    stucknutah Member+

    Feb 14, 2002
    In the Office
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    El Salvador arrives today. Most of the US euro players arrive today. No advantage.
     
  18. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
  19. UPinSLC

    UPinSLC Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    SL,UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is the USMNT training in park city or down in the valley? a full week training in park city at 7000' would be significant. those of you that think there is no advantage of having this game at 4500' are crazy, i cant tell you how many reports i have read about athletes coming to salt lake to play sports (nba, soccer, football, olympics, etc etc etc) and talking about how they get tired after an hour of strenuous activity. you may not feel tired for the first half, but once you sit down at half time and then come back out for the second half your legs start to get real heavy around 10-15 minutes. if i was bob bradley i would be up in park city training where RSL trains sometimes, every day this whole week. they have a nice field up there, then maybe train the day before in Rio Tinto to get used to the surroundings.

    EDIT: found out that the USMNT is practicing in park city for the game, this will help even more. if you dont have 10 days to practice at 4500 feet than you practice for 5-7 days at 7000'. very smart move.
     
  20. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which it has...both weather.com and Deseret News say 88 and partly cloudy...

    Which is a darn sight better than the 98 we went through hiking around Arches National Park yesterday...and that's cool for Arches! :eek:
     
  21. rtung

    rtung Member

    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Sochaux's not very elevated. About 1000ft, according to Wikipedia.
     

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