News is UEFA is looking to come with a decision on Eduardo's dive in the 2nd leg Arsenal game against Celtic. As expected Arsene Wenger is raging! My question is: Is this a reaction to the Scottish FA's comment or a sign of things to come? If it's a matter of getting rid of diving in the game, then good. I just hope there's consistency all around. This is definitely not the first dive of the season and I hope it doesn't become a matter of selecting what dive to look into. What do you think?
It's nice in theory but in pratice it will be crap because loads and loads of players dive and that means they'll all have to be banned to keep up the consistancy on Eduardo.
Was it really an unusual dive? I didn't see it since .... you know... the match meant nothing. A fact that Celtic might have done well to remember to prevent having this witch-hunt bite them in the arse sometime in the future.
Well the idea is to reduce the number of diving, or even better eliminate diving from the game. If the players know they might be banned a few games when they do that, they might think twice. But of course for them to think twice, it has to be consistent and not a once in a while punishment.
It was a blatant dive, but it sets a dangerous precedent as they will have to punish everyone who dives to be consistent....and besides Celtic have a cheek to complain, given their history of divers.
I'd like to agree, but I'm done with overrating the intelligence of footballers. Players think in the moment not about the future. A prime example of this behaviour is seen when players take off their jerseys after scoring knowing 100% that they will get booked.
Agreed, wasn't there a player who did take of shirt and get a second yellow in the first leg of the Fiorentina/Sporting match?
Hang on a second. Did I miss something? Did we(Celtic) ask for this to happen...? As far as I'm aware it's that eedgit Gordon Smith(SFA chief exec) who has kicked all this off. He's been banging on about simulation in the modern game for quite some time now and obviously thought this was a good time to wade back into it again. What's done is done. It should never have got this far. and barack, I agree that every team in the world at some time has had a diver in their team.
If he gets banned, everyone else should. Considering there will be absolutely no consistency and when someone else does the same thing and nothing happens to them, leave him alone as well. If there is no consistency and they don't follow up on this to everyone regardless of their names, it would be criminal to punish him.
I have to say it doesn't happen as much since the rule has been re-introduced. That I think is what's gonna happen with diving. You will still see some players do it specially the chronic divers, but not as much it is now. Specially if the punishment is a 2 game ban.
If it's clear-cut then yes, ban him. People will learn in time. It wasn't so long ago that diving was a rarity in English football. In terms of things that happen in a game, it is highly embarassing to watch these grown men collapse like children the second anybody hints at tackling them in the box.
Surely this goes totally against the traditional UEFA stance of not getting involved in decisions once they have been made. How can they charge Eduardo for this yet not overturn a red card that has been issued wrongly?
Yup. Might've cost Sporting a spot in the CL group-stage considering Fiorentina got the vital second away-goal after that.
It's true. Sadly they are inconsistent. Darren Fletcher shouldn't have been sent off last year but UEFA did nothing. But if it's violent conduct they usually step straight in. Actually, I seem to recall them fining Dida over his reaction to that Celtic pitch invasion.
Spot on. UEFA's (and FIFA's) opinion is that the referees decision on an incident is final and only if the incident was missed by the officials can retrospective action be taken. I'm all for a crackdown on cheating of any sort, but this just smacks of double standards.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=643751&cc=5739 Seems like they've forgotten what they were saying just a few months back.
This decision is a pure abuse of power. Why wasn't this done years ago? It just so happens the muppet in charge Gordon is Scottish and it happens to be celtic. If this was in one of the other Play off ties it wouldnt have got to anywhere near this level of hysteria or any action taken. Celtic are deluding themselves if they think they had a chance to get back in the game if it wasnt for that penalty.
Put in replay for just disputing goals and diving in the box. Make the punishment automatic red and 1 game ban. If the players KNOW they will be caught they will not even try.
Watch Messi's headbutt today, will he be punished as well? No he won't because FIFA likes to make examples out of players who aren't really big name players. High 5 consistency and why I voted no for this poll.
Like Zinedine Zidane (headbutt), Rivaldo (faking injury) and Maradona (drug policy), among others? I agree that they have been inconsistent but I don't think it's based on the player's popularity status.
Not a good example. Somehow Marco Materazzi came out looking the bad guy in that incident. Remarkable really when you consider Zidane's history of being a complete goon.
It's not only the yellow card, but also disallowing a penalty and possible goal. On the other hand, the diver not just didn't get a yellow card, but also might score a goal.
But if a player is retrospectively punished for violent conduct missed by the officials he gets the same punishment as he would had it been spotted and he had been sent off, regardless of the influence he had on the remainder of the game.
Zidane was playing in the World Cup final when literally the entire world was watching him. You are telling me you can't tell the difference. There is a simple point which cannot be debated. If they are going to be inconsistent about it, don't do it at all. Either do it right to everyone no matter what their status is, or don't do it at all. Imo popularity status definitely plays a role here, banning a famous player will get a lot more negative headlines at UEFA due to their status, so they would rather stay away from it. We simply disagree on this issue. If Zidane has a history of being a complete goon, Marco has one of being one of the biggest scumbags in Europe. There is a good reason no one likes that player bar Italian fans.