Adu: Transfer and club play discussion/updates.

As I've said we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I'm a fan, I'm on a fansite yet I don't act as you describe. Remember the Donovan stuff from a few years ago, people were so enraged about the choice he made in his life. He was burned effigy, called all sorts of names, all because he decided he would be happier making a $1M/yr. living in SoCal with his wife. I sorry but that to me is silly, childish and yes, unhealthy. I like Donovan, I like watching him play for the USMNT, I wish he would have stayed in Europe. That said I really don't care what he does, he's his on person. I wish him the best of luck as I do all people in this world. I feel no need to come on the internet and call him all sorts of "**************" because he didn't live out my fantasy for me. If you think that sort of behavior is logical and healthy so be.

 

No one knows what concessions he has or has not made. Reasonable people can read the reports and come to different conclusions for sure, but I read the current "unattributed" reports to be a issue between OB and Benfica, not necessarily between Adu and OB.

I'm guessing, just a guess I admit, that OB wants Benfica to subsidize some portion of the the foreign player minimum they would be required to pay Adu, no matter what he agrees too.

 

Repped. Funny stuff.

 

Somebody took Philosophy 101.

 

*sigh*

The funny thing is people around hear call me the troll.

 

This thread:

 

Fwiw, ESPN says Benfica currently aren't willing to pay any of Freddy's salary, i.e. if a club wants to borrow him they have to pay 100% of Freddy's wages.

I suppose it's possible that OB will be Benfica's backup if no other team meets their demands before the very end of this window.

(Of course, they could simply not budge and, if Freddy's not willing or able to help make things work wage wise, he doesn't play anywhere. That scenario, of course, has been debated to death already in this, and the last, thread. Btw, I'm not sure this isn't simply ESPN picking up the earlier "record" article; the specific confirmation - or perhaps speculation - of Benfica wanting 100% of the tab picked up, though, seems new. Well, I guess Ives basically said the same thing...don't remember if anyone linked to that earlier today...)

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=668761&sec=americansabroad&cc=5901

 

Spoken like a true champ. I mean coming from someone who only post about Freddy Adu. 76 out of your last 80 posts, talking about an unhealthy attraction. Unless that person knows you exist?

 

Prolly reasonable to assume that Benifca wants to pay $0.

Freddy wants his million a year.

So if offering club says they'll give $500,000.

Then Benfica and Freddy are fighting over the remaining $500,000

Who blinks first?

I'd hope that Freddy would take $750,000 and the right club situation, and Benfica would be happy to pay 'only' $250,000 a year for Adu (vs. $1m)....assuming of course some club out there is willing to pay $500,000

 

This is how I see it:

Benifica can pay part of Adu's Salary which Odense is unwilling to pay....or pay his whole salary............ while Adu remains with Benifica this season..
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Again, they are only referencing the original record.pt article, making assumptions, and giving no evidence or new material.

"According to reports in the Portuguese sports daily Record..."

Soccernet is notoriously bad, however, so it's no surprise. What is surprising is that they didn't actually quote his tweets as a main source of info like they did with Jozy last week, which was laughable.

Now just waiting for goal.com to jump on it too....

 

If it's true that Benfica aren't willing to pay any of Freddy's salary if he go on loan, then it seems clear that Benfica are trying to force Adu to take a pay cut. because ther is absolutely no chance that Benfica will find a club that will agree to pay $1m a year to loan Adu, especially since it is a very slow market struck by the financial crisis and the clubs know that Benfica seem desperate to send Adu on loan..
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I've forgotten...can a loan happen after the end of the trading window? Seems like they can...so is there any reason to think that this will only run for 2 more weeks?

Put me in the group who thinks that Benfica is either being really bad businessmen (like Freddy's value is going to go up if he doesn't play somewhere) or that they're trying to make a point with him to keep their other players in line.

 

I think you recall a player from a loan outside the window, but I would think you can only go out on loan during a transfer window because of player registrations and such.

 

This is not necessarily true. Say Adu's market value is $3M, which isn't a huge stretch. Say his average salary deal on a transfer would be around $1.5M over three years (i.e. $500k per year). That means a club would be willing to pay a total of $4.5M for him three years, or an average of $1.5M a year. A loan deal with an option to buy at the end of the season would actually cost less ($1M for a year), and be lower risk.

 

I think the official FIFA transfer window only applies to transfers between different nations however all leagues will also have their own domestic rules and in many cases they will follow the FIFA dates for their country.

 

This whole story is starting to become very depressing. Here's a guy many thought would be a great player someday, and now can't get his own club to let him play, nor can he get another club to pay him enough to play, so in all likelyhood the guy will NOT play and collect a salary while getting no experience on the field. Sad for Freddy, sad for Benfica, and sad for the USMNT fans. What a shame. The guy is going to get paid essentially not to play.

 

There are two weeks left in the window. I think he will land somewhere.

Besides, he got paid to not play last year

 

Sadly, also a fitting image for Freddy's career these days

 

It's not a matter of total cost in the future. If you pay $1 million now, you would still have to pay the $4.5 million more when the loan deal is up... and you just wont find a club stupid enough to pay his full wages at this point... Because of the financial crisis, the European transfer market has never been this slow before and ther has never been this many cheap players to sign. They all know Benfica do not want to use him and are desperate to send him on loan to save some $$, so ther is just no way they would pay all his wages....

OB Odense have made their bid and I'm sure it still stands, no matter if Benfica are happy about it or not... If they dont get better offers within the next 1½ week, Benfica will be forced to either take the offer or keep Adu and pay his full wages..
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I would like to know who are the Brazilian and Argentinian 20 year old attacking midfielders whose careers are blossoming, by way of comparison to Freddy. The only ones I've heard of are Kerlon and Banega, and they're about a year older. Kerlon has been bogged down with injury, but just signed a 3 year contract with Inter. Banega has bounced around on loan for Valencia with the latest destination being Everton. So yeah, maybe they're doing a little better than Freddy at this point, we'll see, but nothing that Freddy couldn't turn around.

Anderson is also a year older but seems like more of a def mid the way he plays for Man Utd. Hasn't scored in 76 appearances.

 

There's about a million Brazilian and Argentine 20 year old and younger attacking phenoms out there, too many to even mention really.

Kerrison
Marquinhos (two of them)
Alex Texiera
Diego Bounanatte (sp?)
Douglas Costa
Willian
Tales

And those are just the ones I can come up with on top of my head, I'm sure Tim Vickery could list about 50 of them.

FYI - Banega is more of a holding midfielder and Argentina has a host of those as well (Zucculini for instance)

 

Brazil has Neymar who is 17 and is called the "New Robinho" and plays regularly for Santos they also have Lulinha who from what I have seen of him hasn't impressed but he is also suppose to be a star player for brazil within 5 years he is 19.

With that said I feel really bad for the kid I know all he wants to do is play and all he needs is a team that wants him. On the bright side he is only 20 which means his career is far from over I just hope he gets a move and plays regularly this season. I would love to see him at the World Cup but he has no shot without regular club minutes.

 

The best example is probably Angel di Maria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ángel_Di_María