Conspiracy Theory - Our Rivals, The Red Bulls, To Rebrand

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Z010 Union, Aug 18, 2009.

  1. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, knowing some of the core guys in ESC as well, I have never known a group more hard done by and truer, for them sticking it out with that never ending turnstile of managers, sucky results, and security mistreatment. They have proven their worth time and again by sticking by their local team even though it would be easier to give up on MLS altogether.

    The BBs are nice guys, but the ESC have toiled and paid their dues. They deserve success in the stands once they finally move into their new building. I think the North Jersey/NYC area deserves their soccer legacy back and it was called the New York Cosmos and they most famously played in Giants Stadium. I don't think NYC2 has any more claim to the Cosmos name than NY/NJ1.
     
  2. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can only call a mulligan on your first tee shot, forget about anywhere on the back 9.
     
  3. Garrincha8

    Garrincha8 Member

    May 28, 2008
    Glasgow
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    yeh, obviously there's quite a few ahead in the que now. particularly St.Louis.

    but 5 years down the line. a DC, NYC Cosmos, NY MetroBulls, Philly Union quadrupel rivalry thing goin on? that would be cool. The intense competition would drive the league standard right up.

    it is pretty sickening to see so many just give up on their NYRB team but after one bad season, after all the work that other teams put into starting up.
     
  4. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This kind of delusion is funny to see.
     
  5. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the folks up farther in the northeast can add to this rivalry you speak of.
     
  6. Garrincha8

    Garrincha8 Member

    May 28, 2008
    Glasgow
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    for the hardcore... not so sure that the majority of them would want a change to Cosmos though - I think they would ideally like "Empire Soccer Club" as the team name, or failing that the "New York Metros". I think they consider the Red Bull thing as a temporary sponsorship distraction covering over an underlying club, the empire club / metros, which will always be there no matter the sponsors and will one day return.

    Cosmos is a different thing really - I suppose some of them supported it back in the day, but its not really them on the whole. Eventually, in the future, it might become realistic as NY2?
     
  7. Garrincha8

    Garrincha8 Member

    May 28, 2008
    Glasgow
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    no doubt.
    what's a revbill?

    Revs sounds OK - like a car reving up.
    ..if they stop playing dress up.
     
  8. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Err, I forget the unofficial name, but it's supposed to be a bastardization of the Buffalo Bills + NE Revolution.

    Logo mashup (courtesy of Bolton)

    [​IMG]
     
  9. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wouldn't that require someone to care about the Revs? Because that might be a dealbreaker right there.
     
  10. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True. I don't know which has more credibility, a fictitious NY2 team that will most likely never happen or the New Englerland BuffaRevoluBills.
     
  11. Garrincha8

    Garrincha8 Member

    May 28, 2008
    Glasgow
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    looks like it's bleeding to death....

    [insert your own punchline]
     
  12. sara_laughs

    sara_laughs New Member

    Jun 16, 2008
    Reading, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, look at all I missed by being away all day. And really I have nothing constructive to add but pull-out jokes. Didn't stop me from posting though, did it?
     
  13. OKTerrific

    OKTerrific Member

    Sep 10, 2005
    The River End
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too easy.
     
  14. sara_laughs

    sara_laughs New Member

    Jun 16, 2008
    Reading, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, yeah, [​IMG] You know this board was boring before I came.

    (you're welcome for that freebie too)
     
  15. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While the name "Cosmos" is like an orgasmatron to some BS posters, the team was only around for 14 seasons. Next year it will have no more tradition than Colorado Rapids and the KC Wizards.
     
  16. SOB - Fleetwood

    SOB - Fleetwood New Member

    Jul 25, 2009
    PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like having a Philly vs NY rivalry going! We live in the Philly area and are within driving distance to 2 of the best soccer only stadiums in the country! You have to love that!Personally, I like the Euor style NY stadium better than ours!
     
  17. SoB Bolton

    SoB Bolton New Member

    Mar 25, 2007
    Chester, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean the KC Wiz? :D
     
  18. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are only five teams left that have had the same name and identity since 1996, since the Wiz, Clash, Burn, Mutiny and MetroStars are no more. And yet the L.A. Galaxy still call themselves that...weird.
     
  19. USArsnl

    USArsnl New Member

    Aug 4, 2006
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rapids and Wizards never had Pele and Beckenbauer.
     
  20. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the "brand" has stayed in existence since the team folded, as evident by the apparel still available for purchase.
     
  21. njndirish

    njndirish Member

    Jul 14, 2008
    Notre Dame, IN
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would not want to soil the Cosmo name with this shoddy run club. Speaking of shoddy run clubs, it never made any sense to me how the RB team has one 2 of the last 3 Austrian Bundesliga titles, while this team can't do crap. There obviously is enough money to make the club better. Meanwhile, Red Bull invested in two other clubs (Brazil and Germany) but both of those are lower level clubs.

    In the meantime, my friend from the Philly area keeps telling me to become a Union supporter because RB is a shadow of what it once was. And he is right, if RB does not come in with wholesale changes between now and the off season, and leaves the below pub league caliber team on the pitch, then RB, no matter how fancy and cool the stadium looks, are dead to me.
     
  22. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neither did the MetroStars. Renaming the Metros the "Cosmos" makes about as much sense as renaming them the "SuperFriends" on the theory that them people will think Batman plays for them.
     
  23. SideshowBob

    SideshowBob Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Maryland
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems to me that Empire Soccer Club is an awesome name, but only if the team is actually playing in New York (since that is the "Empire State, not NJ). So that would be appropriate for a team in NYC or Long Island if that happened.

    If RBNY gets sold and rebrands, I would think New York Metro would be good or buying out the Cosmos name would make sense (especially since, as noted, the NASL team mostly played in Giants Stadium/New Jersey so the tradition is there).
     
  24. Onion41

    Onion41 Member

    Jun 13, 2007
    The Glass Factory
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this happens I can still enjoy my beverage of choice....Hip Hip Hooray!
     
  25. Talleyville United

    Talleyville United New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Talley-Ho, Dellawhur
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union

    Repped!
    Great minds think alike :)

    I think this is really an attempt to rebrand them as "Gotham" and tie them in with NJ's greatest attraction, SixFlags, which featured Batman rides. :cool:

    I will now re-join Bryan, Dave & Travis in wearing our hats while listening to the Art Bell Coast to Coast radio show

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