Who is the best holding midfielder/defensive midfielder in world football?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by benni..., Mar 5, 2008.

  1. Grinners89

    Grinners89 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 8, 2007
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I thought this was a good post until you decided to mention that name. A very poor nomination.
     
  2. Blue Day

    Blue Day Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Mile End
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    gago is pretty good what problem do you have with that guy?
     
  3. man_in_the_middle

    May 2, 2008
    Gago is OK, but certainly not one of the best in the world. Real Madrid was hoping he would become Redondo. It hasn't worked out.

    Against the best competition he is over matched(see Liverpool Real Madrid game) He has done nothing with the full Argentina side either.

    Again, not bad, but not in the upper echelon.
     
  4. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Toulalan deserves a mention.
     
  5. RolexEmbezzled

    RolexEmbezzled New Member

    May 30, 2009
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Roma gave up the 4th most goals in Serie A last year yet De Rossi is one of the 3 best Dmids in the world, what am I missing?
     
  6. juvefe2

    juvefe2 New Member

    Mar 19, 2009
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    roma had a ton of injuries last year and there defense sucks. thats not de rossi's fault. he still one of the best d-mids in the game.
     
  7. Berean Todd

    Berean Todd New Member

    Jan 25, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Roma's fullbacks are horrible, and had tons of injuries and missed time by their CBs. Their keeper is not the best around either. You realize that there are 11 men on the pitch at a time, De Rossi can't stop goals going in on his own.
     
  8. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    Yaya Toure is definately top 5. The guy bullied both Essien and Mikel at the same time in the first Chelsea v Barcelona game. He also has a pretty good offensive game as well.
     
  9. TKORL

    TKORL Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    Club:
    Valencia CF
    I hope you realize that just because a player can defend well doesn't make him a DM. He simply is very good at defending.

    Both Redondo and Keane brought much more to the game than their defensive skills, which were still very good. They were both complete central midfielders with many strong characteristics.

    Best example is Keane, I don't know why people just mark him as a DM without actually paying attention to his game...
     
  10. Blue Day

    Blue Day Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Mile End
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    no he didn't, the first chelsea vs barca game the entire barca midfield was getting bullied and owned, including Yaya
     
  11. Grinners89

    Grinners89 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 8, 2007
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Keane and Redondo were definitely not DM's.
     
  12. TheGrimSweeper

    Jul 16, 2006
    Toronto,Canada
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Cambiasso anyone?
     
  13. man_in_the_middle

    May 2, 2008
    I think Redondo was often deployed as a DM. 4 goals in over 6 years at Real Madrid. A good playmaker but was more of an anchor.

    You have a stronger point with Keane because of the way he was deployed.

    But either guy is as capable of filling the DM role.
     
  14. TKORL

    TKORL Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    Club:
    Valencia CF
    I'm probably going overboard, but Redondo was like Makelele and Pirlo put in one.
     
  15. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Plus he had the ability to run with the ball at his feet.
     
  16. Gitano

    Gitano New Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Not overboard at all, the guy was defensively as good as Makelele and every bit as good as Pirlo bar his long range passing ability. He was like a freight train, no one could stop him once he got going due to his size, strength and technical flawlessness. To me, he is mixture of Makelele, Pirlo and Yaya Toure.

    In the 1999-2000 season, Real Madrid lined-up like this in Europe:

    -------Anelka------Morientes

    ---Raul-------------------McManaman

    -------------Redondo------------

    ---Carlos-----Karanka----Helguera----Campos---Salgado


    Redondo was the only true midfielder in this set-up, I don't think there is anyone who could do the job he did that season in today's game. Such an underrated player.
     
  17. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    But the combination of them definitely would do the job. It is not unlike Argentina pairing Redondo with Simeone.
     
  18. impalemeplz

    impalemeplz Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Sydney
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    except keane performed redondo and simeone's job for a better part of his prime at a top top level. i think redondo would just be a luxury in any team with keane.
     
  19. TKORL

    TKORL Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    Club:
    Valencia CF
    Yeah that was probably because RM has 3 CB's so they were allowed to do that. But even then it looks very risky on paper. Teams today would have at least one full time DM and another CM in that formation.

    One of my favorite players because he was one of the few players who was strong defensively and had fantastic technique and vision. Arguably there's no one like that in the game today, Xavi and Pirlo play deep, but they lack his defensive skills, players like Maka recover the ball and hand it off to more gifted teammates.
     
  20. phil80

    phil80 Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Lassana is one of the current best at combining the defensive prowess with the technical ability to spring attacks.
     
  21. erick

    erick Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bama Nation
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He has my humble vote. ;)
     
  22. nurspec

    nurspec Member

    Sep 26, 2003
    new york
    Without a shadow of a doubt the best player in this position is lassana Diarra.

    He didn't play at Chelsea much but when he did he was quite good.He left for Arsenal , the club that needed him more than any other ,and was so scared by the amount of playing time he would get soon left for Portsmouth.IF only he knew he was brought in to replace a soon to leave Flamini Arsenal would have had a better season.
    Anyway at Pompey is where everyone ELSE started to realize his potential,he manhandled Man u in the cup ,and everyone else prompting a move to Real madrid.

    NOw, up until Lass Diarra joined the Spanish club they were on a slide ,after loosing M.Diarra to injury. You can check the stats ,but i will tell you now that the day he joined Real Madrid they went on a 17 game unbeaten streak. Coincidence? I your dreams,so impressive was he that even the REal madrid fans actually made him a favourite.
    the thing that gives Lass the edge over all others is because of these variables....
    1) He is lightning quick.
    2) He is an impeccable tackler
    3) He starts an attack without a second thought.
    4) He has very good passing range
    5) He is all over the field the whole game.

    He just has more tools to his game than any other defensive mid and in fact he is a rare gem in the world of football. I think with the addition of Alonso to partner him Real Madrid is NOW on paper a legitimate Champions league threat make no mistake. Before Alonso i was hoping Real would play both Diarra's in the mid field ,with Lass more of a roaming role going from box to box and M.Diarra sitting back.
    BUt the option of both Alonso and L.Diarra as threats make them more dangerous ,if the manager can get them thinking in sync.
    That my thoughts.
     
  23. phil80

    phil80 Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    lassana is indeed very underrated and for a defensive mid he has exceptional technical ability.
     
  24. jcvf90

    jcvf90 Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    Boca Raton, FL
    Wilson Palacios....he is good but not world class yet.
    I have Essien, Yaya, Masch, De Rossi.

    Gago cannot even be considered for this.
     
  25. nurspec

    nurspec Member

    Sep 26, 2003
    new york
    indeed , amd how anyone can put Gago in thier list and not him is beyond comprehension, gago is trash in comparison. All you have to do is watch a real madrid game with both players on the field, diarra made him look like a lazy poser.Real madrid don't derserve Diarra that much is a fact ,because with addition of these so called " mega stars" his input will be overlooked as is usually the case in this glamour consumed society of ours. It's a shame ,but a fact of life that i hope will change.
     

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