Are Americans Becoming Soccer Fans?

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  1. nhlman10

    nhlman10 Member

    Mar 28, 2008
    Meh
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice article. I love all the recent soccer buzz lately. I agree because during my last Sunday morning softball game, I talked soccer, with my shortstop and catcher. Never though that would happen. :)


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574317122524606410.html

    By MATTHEW FUTTERMAN and NICK WINGFIELD

    When it comes to sports, one of the stubbornest examples of American exceptionalism is the use of the word “soccer.” Some six billion people around the world have chosen to call it “football.” We don’t care.
    But in recent months, this sport—the one with the ball and the net—has taken a few steps forward. As Major League Soccer, the leading American professional league, holds its All-Star game Wednesday at Rio Tinto Stadium in Utah, there is growing evidence that America’s parochial attitude toward this game is quickly fading.
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    FIFA President on Major League Soccer

    4:22FIFA president Joseph Blatter discusses major league soccer and the development of soccer globally.
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    Write to Matthew Futterman at matthew.futterman@wsj.com and Nick Wingfield at nick.wingfield@wsj.com
     
  2. KevNet

    KevNet New Member

    Oct 18, 2008
    U.S.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    One thing I've been noticing for sure at my job lately is that a lot and I mean a lot more of my co workers in a huge building with around 400 employees are asking many soccer questions. We even have a soccer team in the building now full of first timers and they're loving it. But yea, I do notice there's more soccer buzz around and less soccer bashing nowa days.
     
  3. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer already has mainstream interest in America. It's not a matter of if Americans will start watching or becoming interested in the game, because the numbers this summer proved that. People that went to see Chelsea, AC Milan, Mexico, Costa Rica, etc. this summer knew who they were before going into the stadium. 2009 wasn't a first for European teams and other national teams selling out our NFL stadiums.

    The true question is how long will it be until Americans spark up a consistant mainstream interest in AMERICAN SOCCER. Seattle = 30,000. Great. What about everyone else? 80,000 at USA vs. Mexico. Good. But when will we see at least 60,000 fans cheering for America in any stadium against any team? Will World Cup 2010 spark that interest for the USMNT here to where it rivals the interest of the other national teams? America's on course, but there's still a ways to go.

    People need to stop using only MLS and the USMNT to decide how popular soccer is in America, and start using soccer to decide how popular soccer is in America. When that is seen, it's easy to understand why the powerhouse European and continental teams want to have more exhibitions here. They know they can take advantage of an already existing market and interest.
     
  4. mrecint

    mrecint New Member

    May 31, 2006
    Fishers, IN
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, I've got 3 buddies who I never would have thought would become soccer fans. Weirdest thing is that we're in our 30's and they got into it by playing FIFA 09. Then they realized how deep soccer was with leagues and tournements. They're still confused about ALOT of things like promotion/relegation, point system, and transfers....
    But I know by World Cup time, there will be a lot more soccer fans by June!
    I even think my neighborhood bar that never plays soccer might even have games going this season!
     
  5. NYCfan

    NYCfan New Member

    Aug 25, 2006
    NYC, New York
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plenty of New Yorkers care about soccer. Very few care about Redbull or MLS.
     
  6. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One amigo stationed in Baltimore told me about the huge numbers that went to see Chelsea X AC Milan. He sounded in awe that so many people would flock go to an "exhibition" match. Now this guy is a true bumpkin from the 'neckcar regions' of eastern Tennessee, but for him to at least notice anything soccer related is a seed that can only grow for many Americans that don't follow the sport avidly. The key IMHO is mainstream media coverage or rather, HOW they cover the leagues and National team within the U.S.A.
     
  7. njndirish

    njndirish Member

    Jul 14, 2008
    Notre Dame, IN
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As I said in the MLS News post, I'd expect WSJ readers to be better informed than how the commenters have responded.
     
  8. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Screw 'em. The WSJ print edition is still on the desk of most executive's offices when they stroll into work each morning. You need people with money to open up new markets. The more "local" that money, the better.
     
  9. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Oregonian (biggest paper in Oregon and SW Washington) had very good coverage of the MLS All-Star game on the FRONT of the sports section. That's never happened before.
     
  10. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001

    So am I.
     
  11. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're all holding out for "NYC2". :rolleyes:
     
  12. wgoood2

    wgoood2 New Member

    Aug 26, 2006
    Strong Island
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. Outside of red bull games i go to. I know about 30 people who love soccer, but not one of them likes MLS or US soccer. They think its crap.
     
  13. Willito

    Willito Member

    Mar 3, 2008
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    A friend of mine at work today (Wash. DC), who is a HUGHE Chicago Bears fan, asked me today if I went to the Chelsea v. Milan game in Baltimore, he told me he saw it on tv and that he liked it a lot, he also said that some of our co-workers actually went to the game.
    Also, when the US played against Spain, I put the game on one of our breakrooms TVs and a few attorneys and secretaries watched the game with me, when Dempsey scored the second goal, the whole place went crazy and everybody was high-fiveing each other and screaming, it was crazy.
    People like soccer, the question is if they like American Soccer.
     
  14. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that their attitude is crap!
     
  15. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whenever anybody tells me MLS is crap, I always say "You're part of the reason why it's crap, if everybody who said it's crap went to the matches and watched it on TV, MLS would have a hell of a lot more money to spend on players that aren't crap."

    It almost always gets them to at LEAST STFU, at most they actually listen and go to a few matches a year.
     
  16. eightyhoursaway

    Jun 5, 2008
    Section 101
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    umm in ireland, we also call it soccer because we already have a football...gaelic football. in australia, they call it soccer as well. they have aussie football. the ignorance of some writers really gets to me sometimes.
     
  17. eightyhoursaway

    Jun 5, 2008
    Section 101
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    i say the same exact thing.
     
  18. zedubal

    zedubal New Member

    Mar 31, 2008
    American Fork, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    A guy I play with on an indoor team refuses to go to MLS games with me because he thinks the quality is too low. (He's never actually attended an MLS game.) Watching the game is only 1/2 the fun. Getting roudy, yelling at players and refs and joining in the chanting and the singing is something you don't get watching EPL on TV. There's a soccer viewer and there is a soccer fan. If you live in the US and you don't attend your local MLS games, you are a soccer viewer.
     
  19. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    You shouldn't be friends with these people.
     
  20. BSGuy321

    BSGuy321 Member

    Sep 2, 2008
    Change has come to America






    .. and it's about friggin time
     
  21. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just don't comprehend this attitude. How can it be possible to prefer following some foreign club, to which you have no ties, over a team that's yours? Where's the emotional attachment gloryhunting with ManU, Liverpool, or Barca?

    In 1997, when the Cleveland Indians blew the World Series, I was so upset I broke down in tears. I can't imagine having that kind of feeling for some team an ocean away. My favorite Prem club is Fulham, but I can't imagine running in the streets screaming if they won the championship. If the Indians or City Stars took it all, though, I'd probably do just that.

    This is not to put down those who have a legitimate historical attachment to a European club. But most of those who prefer European soccer just watch it because they think it's a better game. To me, that's just... I don't know. Soulless?

    ------RM
     
  22. QrysDonnell

    QrysDonnell Member

    Apr 2, 2006
    New York
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From my experience traveling to see the Chelsea/AC Milan match in Baltimore after everything else in the 'Summer Of Soccer' I'd say soccer has finally arrived. It had a different feeling from any US soccer event I had gone to. The town was taken over by soccer fans and appreciative of it (soccer fans=$$$). Local coverage both before and after the game was good. No soccer bashing in sight. The closest thing came when a tour driver asked us who was playing and he mentioned that he didn't follow soccer - the strange thing was his tone when saying it was almost like he felt left out!

    The real problem will be if us old school fans will have to deal with expensive games and crowded stadiums 20 years from now. I'm sure we'll be pining for the old days!
     
  23. KevNet

    KevNet New Member

    Oct 18, 2008
    U.S.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    The Change We Believe In Is Coming.

    Let the soccer bashers die.
     
  24. KennyWoo

    KennyWoo Member

    May 21, 2007
    Pasadena, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most of "they" probably don't know a ********ing thing either. You often hear a Euro-snob talk about the higher quality of the EPL or whatever other big Euro league they watch on television. However, the only teams that a fan can take one look at and instantly recognize the gap in quality between their play and that of MLS are the "Big 4" in England, ACM, Inter, Juve, Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern, etc. In other words, the huge matches between the huge teams that are contenders to win the Champions League.

    None of these guys ever mention that an average EPL game - say, Wigan, Bolton, Fulham matches against other midtable squads - is usually an ugly contest in front of a crowd that isn't much bigger than an average MLS crowd. (Wigan's average attendance last year was 19,000, Fulham's was usually between 22k and 25k, same for Bolton.) The soccer isn't pretty and it would take the most discerning of eyes to notice instantly a difference in quality between that and MLS. (People who claim they can tell the difference between the play and skill of Stoke and that of Houston are probably lying.)

    Likewise, watching Chelsea pound Stoke 4-0 is not particularly compelling either. Group stages of the Champions League (Man U vs. Steaua Bucharest, anyone?) are also anticlimactic.

    So what the Eurosnob is really talking about is the 6 times per year that the "Big 4" play each other, maybe mix in some Man City these days, as well as the occasional Champions League Group Stage match that has two big clubs in it (though often the big teams don't really go for it in these matches because a 0-0 draw is plenty to assure advancement for both), and the Champions League knockout stages. That isn't many "elite" matches during a year, and NONE of them air at the same time as MLS matches. The "MLS or European soccer" thing is a false dichotomy.

    Of course, it is undeniable that AC Milan vs. Manchester United in the Champions League semifinal is better than an MLS match, but who gives a ********? That's certainly no reason not to watch MLS. (For the record, I watch an occasional EPL match and like the Champions League, and I picked a team to root for, but I have no real connection to them and they are nothing to me compared to the Galaxy.)

    Eurosnobs act like they are the greatest fans in the world and that they are above MLS. In reality, a Eurosnob, if transplanted to Milan, still wouldn't bother to attend more than a match or two a season. They'd find some other excuse such as parking issues, cost of tickets, old stadium, ultras or prawn sandwich people ruining the experience (take your pick), lousy concessions, etc. Because that's what a Eurosnob is - a malcontent who just wants to destroy all that he touches.
     
  25. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    NYCFC - Napoli
    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Sure !!!!
     

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