Let's cease with that chit-chat. Being 'surrounded with talent' never made any player's football get 'better'. You'll ALWAYS look ridiculous if amidst the dancers of the Bolshoy's 'Swan's Lake' all you have to contribute with are a few dumb polka steps. Nobody is there to carry a heavy trunk on one's back. In order to dance with them you have to BE ABLE to dance LIKE them. Or...BETTER. Either that or you're FIRED, mate! ...
You're responding to the wrong post... This CIA cartoon was arguing that CR had an easier time bc he was surrounded by more talent, which not only is flatly untrue, but also fails to show how CR is worse to earn a spot in a more talented team (which it wasn't).
I wasn't necessarilly addressing you, but this talk (so common in BS) that 'x' is worse than 'y' because 'y' won a game by himself while 'x' dit it because was 'surrounded' by great players. That doesn't exist: neither nobody wins games alone nor somebody excels more if surrounded by big stars. On the contrary: his tendency is to disappear. In order to shine among stars you got at least to be another one.
Oh god, oh god, oh god. You wanna get all psychological shit? You "try" to bring down users by bringing up their little knowlegde. Are you trying to cover up for your little knowledge? I have yet to see a logical post coming from you buddy. And you keep bringing up my inability to bring up a coherent post about the subject. Where the ******** have you posted your reason about why you think Cristiano is better? PS: Don't call me honey unless you're a hot chick.
Exactly. I'll add something too, Cristiano has nowhere near the technical ability of Dinho. I mean, even for showing off, you have to have class. Cristiano has the most awkward bicycle kick I've ever seen. Looks like a retarded duck.
Not to mention Cristiano's stepovers look retarded too. While Ronaldo and Ronaldinho's skills looked natural, Cristiano looks like he is trying too hard. Many of his moves look robotic while R10 and R9s were more fluid.
Oh shit, my bad. I don't know why I put bicycle kicks up there. I also meant stepovers. And yes, most europeans have awkward moves. The weirdest one being IMO in between Zidane and Cristiano. But there's one huge difference between those two. Zidane did it to move up on the field, and to create something, while Cristiano does it to show off. If my moves we're like his, I wouldn't want to show off.
Honey, this is the most mindless circle jerk I've seen in a while. As for the incomparable Phil80 "first touch, ball possession, creativity, technical ability, crossing, vision, passing, knowing when to pass/take on players (football IQ), short range free kicks...need I go on? CR is better in headers, long distance free kicks, and long range shooting " Ronaldinho: first touch, short passing, acceleration and agility in small areas, good goal scorer CR: speed over larger distances, aerial ability and physical strength, free kicks, creating space while running with the ball, and of course, his main strength is his astonishing goalscoring prowess. CR's goalscoring ability puts him over RonnyDinho. Dinho has better first touch and short-range passing, but Ronaldo is not bad in any of the areas that Ronaldinho is good at. Criticising CR for his lesser first touch and short range passing is akin to saying Sara Carbonero is mediocre because she doesn't have big enough boobs. Her boobs are decent, but that's just not what her game's built around.
Are you familiar with Roberto Baggio? What about Platini? Heck CR is better than Best. But you'll probably lay an egg upon reading that. So I won't bother pushing it too much.
Platini would also lay an egg in tribute to that. As for Baggio in 1994 he also 'laid his egg': upwards though.
And how about Zidane? And even now with Iniesta? I know you keep referring to posters as honey and prefer to talk about circle jerks, but we dont swing your way. It's not our fault that your posts have been refuted and ridiculed by practically everyone here. In your laughable comparison of the two players you foolishly left out dinho's creativity, technical ability, short-range free kicks, vision, and general football IQ. and you mention goalscoring prowess as if ronaldinho's was far inferior to cronaldo's which is insanely false. How about you do everyone a favor and refrain from posting on players you know little of, go back and rewatch ronaldinho in his prime then return and compare the two players, so we wouldnt have to go through the trouble of exposing your intellectual shortcomings on the topic. Thank the likes of TKORL and his oh so vast 'knowledge in football'
Of course I was being a bit extreme, but as far as 'fluid dribbling football' IMO Zidane & Iniesta are miles behind Best. The same for Platini & Baggio (cited by KORL). They can be fine dribblers but are far from the great specialists: Best, Garrincha, Maradona, Rivelino, Matthews, Eusébio, R10.
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People forget the past VERY easily. CR couldn't spit shine either Ronaldos' boots or Best's. As far as the topic goes, my answer:
As I don't really have the time to do a line by line, let's focus on one point you made. Please explain using this infinite wisdom of yours how Ronaldinho was a better goalscorer than CR. And btw, I rated Ronaldo as the best of all of these 4 guys.
Reading comprehension isnt your strong point. Where did i mention dinho is the better goalscorer?? I said he was not vastly inferior to CR's goalscoring ability and claiming to the contrary is insanely foolish. In actuality, there is not much that seperates their goalscoring abilities. The difference was Ronaldinho was scoring the spectacular goals WHILE setting up etoo and giuly. And why dont you explain how you intentially leave out creativity, vision, and technical ability in terms of dinho? So? what does this have to do with the discussion regarding Ronaldinho and CR?
Your posts will go from stupid, to stupider, seeing as how Cristiana will fail in La Liga this year. BTW, Ryan Giggs,fluid dribbling? [english]********ing Mancy.[/english]
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You count in the fingers of your hand the Euros (specially the most recent) that are real dribbling specialists. Cronaldo's step-overs & gimmicks for instance are ludicrous - although he's good enough for audiences not used to individual ability. Giggs's not that much above the average (as a dribbler). You can cherrypick as much as you can that you won't give me all-time top ones in a satisfactory amount in recent Euro football. That's what I meant when I said that Best was the 'last one'.