Bradley now will stay forever

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by SoccerScout, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. harkes6

    harkes6 Member

    Apr 24, 2007
    san francisco
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the davies goal was ugly but baby bradley scored on a great run of play and demps hit the third after BB moved him up from wing to forward.
    good decision, no?
    had we crashed out today i think he would've gotten the ax. this probably bought him through the WC, but you can't have too many qualms about that. a new coach with new ideas just wouldn't have enough time to prepare. it sucks we're going with stale tactics and thinking, but even the biggest coaches out there couldn't do much with just a gold cup and a small handful of friendlies to prepare with.
    after 2010 i think it stands to reason that we need a fancy new coach. i think we may get one too.
    i'm already looking forward to 2014.
     
  2. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So let's get this straight. You hate BB so much that you are rooting against the team so he gets fired?
     
  3. Bonus_Game

    Bonus_Game Member

    Sep 30, 2007
    San Francisco
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am more optimistic about our chances in the 2010 world cup after the heart the players showed today even though Bob Bradley will most likely be the coach.

    If we had lost today after another disheartening performance, I would be less optimistic than I am now even if we changed coaches.
     
  4. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And these are the supporters .... wow.

    I get the angst and dislike for good 'ol Bradley ... but damn. An absolute fluke happened today. On top of that, the players showed some backbone. Rather than take the one GOOD thing from today, everyone wants to shit all over what happened.

    Confidance is what this team needs, and today has given them some of it. They needed a six goal swing while winning the match by 3. They just saw today that they are capable and that things can happen. This is what they need going forward.

    But yes let's drop our drawers, spread our cheeks, and take a fat shit on today. That's the spirit.
     
  5. Jough

    Jough Member+

    Jul 30, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There can now be no doubt that we are at least the 4th best team in the world. USA! USA! USA!


    Though, in all fairness, Bob Bradley > Bruce Arena > SGE.
     
  6. Patient

    Patient New Member

    Jun 16, 2009
    We all know that the US managing to get out of this group was a fluke... don’t get me wrong I am deliriously happy... but realistically we got very lucky in that Brazil beat the shit out of Italy and we managed to score for a change. The telling story is the next two games... Spain and Mexico... if we lose 3-0 against Spain and have a similar defeat in Mexico it will prove that indeed this win against Egypt will have meant absolutely nothing... on the other hand if our boys put a great performance against Spain and let's say we lose 1-0 and we win in Mexico then I would say perhaps the USMNT is back in the game. As for me I would still like to see Bob Bradley go.
     
  7. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a difference it makes when you play to win. The players deserved it because of how badly Bradley sent them out for over a month.
     
  8. DAGSports

    DAGSports New Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Largely agreed. Personally, I will continue to get behind this team and coach. We have plenty of challenges to overcome as it is, a hostile group of supporters shouldn't be one of them, IMO.
     
  9. counterattack

    counterattack New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    You little pimps.
    All this victory proves is that Bob Bradley, and most everyone else forgot more about international football than you loathsome pack of negative jerks will ever know.

    Just so you do know, here are a few. . .

    1. The Confederations Cup and all of the other tune-up competitions are nothing more or less than the pre-season. The real season is qualifying, and finishing in the World Cup. To get there players need experience, good and bad. Who in their right mind would say right now that Italy is screwed for 2010 because of how they played Brazil? Well you clowns said the same thing about your country's team after Italy and Brazil.

    2. In tournament play it is just as important how you lose as how you win. Want to get through? Make sure you get the most goals you can in each game. The one that Landykins scored against Italy was the difference.

    3. Talent will out. Dempsey is a world class player. Adu is not.

    4. Once again, how this tournement plays out just doesn't matter. What dose matter is the USMT will get a chance to play the number one team in the world in the host country, a year before the WC. Talk about a helping experience.

    I could go on, but for now I know we are safe from the mindless meddling of you dimwits. The only way Bob Bradley is going out is not making the WC. After this Con Cup it will not be for a lack of heart from the team.
     
  10. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas

    Your words: Fluke. Kind of sums up what is probably the assessment of most about this result. Those that maintain the same criticism about the team and Bob are seeing the forest and not clinging to a single tree to feel good about the team. The good things from today? Well we've seen these things from our team before, and the primary concern is that they have been copiously absent from our last four games. In fact our recent performances fell well below even reasonable standards. If you have followed the team since 2002 onward you have seen mediocre to decent to hopeful to bad, but no consistency in a trend to suggest that we are taking a step up.

    So while I think many are excited at the result today, and encouraged that the team was able to put a good performance together, there is still a lot of negative momentum to overcome. In fact I believe that a lot of us would have been equally as content with exiting out in the first round of this tourney had we played well in all three games rather than playing like we we were totally clueless in the first two and then getting a single good performance and very lucky help from Brazil/Italy. It would have also helped to have not looked awful and mediocre in our last two qualifiers preceding this tourney. So while today might have instilled some excitement and a glimmer of hope, the balance of the performances over the last month and a half still say that the team is not where it could/should be.
     
  11. arswift

    arswift New Member

    Feb 21, 2008
    Omaha, NE
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This result will hurt USSoccer in the long run! DAMMIT!
     
  12. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That statement right there screwed your entire Argument. First off? Do you even know what a world class player is?
     
  13. budfrog532

    budfrog532 New Member

    Sep 7, 2008
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Yeah, I just don't get the Bradley (both coach and son) hatred that has turned people into anti-USA so-called "supporters".

    Go support Brazil or Italy, you frontrunning losers. I am all good with calling out the coach for not doing a good job, but don't root against my team.
     
  14. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't get it? People are anti-Bradley because they want the best for this team in the long run. Also how is being against Bradley make you a frontrunner? I don't get it.
     
  15. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't mind the anti-Bradley crowd, in fact, I've questioned a lot of his decisions lately.

    But being upset that we won, and advanced even if it was through long-shot circumstances is mind-boggling to me.

    "This hurts the US in the long run"

    How? How does it hurt these players to get more experience against top countries in the world? Regardless of who the coach is. The teams that need to be questioning coaching and heart right now are Italy and Egypt.

    Criticize BB. Fine.

    Complaining that a good result is actually bad because you don't get your whiny little way about who coaches the national team is just plain silly.
     
  16. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So winning today is worth having Bradley in SA next summer?
     
  17. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone honestly believe that a loss would have got Bradley fired? If you do you are more delusional than I thought.
     
  18. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Fluke is what is probably the assessment of most about our team showing backbone, finding something within themselves, having a sense of pride, and managing to actually show up.

    That doesn't do anything for me. Kind of just enforces the absolute craptastic attitude I found when I came into this thread.

    Fast forward this result to next summer. Everyone on this board is forgetting about Bradley for now (until they were knocked out at least) and shitting themselves in excitement rather than dumping on him. Everyone is happy as all hell to have a lifeline and the chance to move on. That's exactly what we have here. A chance, and it's against the best team in the world right now. This is exactly what this team needs. Another flop out and "didnt get off the bus" performance would have deflated the hell out of this team. Their performance and the stars aligning have put on a silver platter the ultimate opportunity for these guys.

    I guess maybe I choose to see things positively rather than throwing out a self fulfilling prophecy of "same old shit" "mediocre maybe" "yeah but we still suck."
     
  19. BobBradley

    BobBradley Red Card

    Jun 18, 2009
    we should have won that game 6 to 0, landy cakes messed up baaad....

    egypt underestimated us and they didn't have their best players but it was a nice effort from most of our team, im just happy we are going through, i still want bob bradley fired,

    brian ching is a lock for 2010 according to bob bradley thats why he needs to get fired, also franky heyduk ...that is a shame,

    cherundolo....that is a joke...thats not the best we have got a country of 300 million plus....

    complete joke, but im happy we get some experience against spain,

    firebobbradley.com
     
  20. KevinLin

    KevinLin Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Spot on. We would have to drop to 5th in CONCACAF.

    So to me this is a positive, we at least get another game vs. a world class team and hopefully Bradley continues to learn his lessons(Beasley is bad, davies is good, etc.) I will take this and hope our players and coaches learn from it.
     
  21. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You aren't a true supporter if you root against your own team. That's pathetic and sad.
     
  22. ferrari77

    ferrari77 Member

    May 23, 2002
    Everywhere
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I don't think folks here were rooting AGAINST the USA. As I said in another thread, it's similar to Mclaren's last match w/ England when he lost the qualifier to Croatia. Just about every England supporter wanted the team to win so we could go to the Euro's but there were a lot that could see past that one match and the Euro tourney and realized if England lost it wouldn't be the end. The England team didn't deserve to go through and the supporters realized a change (hopefully for the better) would be on the horizon. Then came Capello.
     
  23. Prime Time

    Prime Time Member

    May 1, 2004
    South Florida
    The team was also unlucky in getting a red card when they were taking the game to Italy. Luck is part of the game.

    So if the guys lose to the best national team playing right now by 3 goals then that means this win vs. Egypt means nothing? Wow, what a method to rate the team. :rolleyes:

    The U.S. team has NEVER won in Mexico. A win is possible but if the boys do not win then they are labeled terrible once again? :rolleyes:
     
  24. JohhnyCaps

    JohhnyCaps Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah - Egypt didn't play us tight through the midfield but we also looked a lot more fluid moving the ball through the midfield w/o Beas or Klestjan...
    Completely different team...

    Kudos to Clark and Feilhaber...
     
  25. nirwin

    nirwin Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Aug 20, 2007
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You people have officially lost your damn minds. This is among the best results in U.S. soccer history. If you can't manage to get excited about it, then you really need to stop and think to yourself about why that is. This is not about Bradley today. This is about you refusing to acknowledge one of the greatest performances we have had and brushing it off somehow as a mediocre performance because you are so emotionally invested in Bradley's firing (which was never going to happen before the end of the World Cup anyway) that you actually are not capable of seeing good play and a ridiculously incredible result, even when it's there. It's frankly pathetic. You guys really need to get a grip. I'm not Bradley's biggest fan, either, but that you felt nothing but disgust that this ended the chances of Bradley being fired is pathetic. You are at the point now where you will listen to no reason or logic. This Bradley thing has actually ceased your being a fan of your team. Because flat-out, if you did not feel elation and joy at that, then you are no longer a fan of U.S. soccer, and there is nothing that will save you from that.

    And yes: winning that game today was absolutely worth having Bradley next summer. We could advance to the knockout round next summer and not have a day as awesome as that.
     

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