Official Bob Bradley must go Thread

I'm fairly sure it's the sound of low expectations.

 

Is Juergen available is week?

 

What can we do? First, get off the coach's ass. Second, support US Soccer in its goal to bring soccer to disadvantage neighborhoods, and last, when the time is right, tell MLS that it will have to begin to pay its players something more than dick wages.

The change will come. The fastest route would be a one-time miracle finish at the WC.

 

How about instead we fire Bobo and get somebody that actualy knows what they are doing.

 

If he isn't, there's this guy named Marco Van Basten who is.

 

Pride is only false modesty in search of an excuse.

 

Only to have the best knee us in the crotch

 

I'm about 20 pages behind on this thread, but must add the following:

Bradley still must go, and the sooner the better. What is wrong with this syllogism:

The US needed a coach that was an improvement over Arena.

Bradley was and is not an improvement over Arena.

Bradley is not the coach the US needs.

Middle of qualifying? Who cares if 2010 looks exactly like 1998 or 2006. Better coaches don't grow on trees? I refuse to accept that the US cannot hire somone better than Bob Bradley.

The US needs better players, but only so much can be done about that. But the US also needs a better coach, and the USSF can fix that in a week.

 

When MLS kicked off in 1996... I really thought it was a matter of time before the US would develop some really good players...I for one belive the 1994 squad with the likes of Cobby Jones, Tab Ramos, Eric Wynalda and Ernie Stewart was a better team then the current one....As for Bradley, I honestly don't understand why he does not give Adu a chance to perform for a full game...To me Adu altough far from perfect has shown time and again that he can be creative and take players on..thought Altidore was a force to be contended with... like to see up front with Davis... like to see Donavan, Adu, Beasely feeding them balls...Dempsey a total disappointment..I am unsettled with our defense....thank god for Howard.,,,, I pray Bradley makes wholesale changes for Brazil's game...for God Sakes Give ADU a chance...

 

It's almost comforting in a way to come on to a thread like this one and see all the old inevitable arguments and hand wringing indictments...fire Bob because he didnt bring on Adu, as if Adu would have made a damn bit of difference...fire Bob because he's tactically inept, even though we were playing the World Champions down a man...fire Bob because our players aren't up to Italy's standard, though how that's Bob's fault is a bit beyond me, explaining who in the US pool IS up to that standard might make that argument hold at least a little water....fire Bob period, is what people should just say, if they feel that way, don't try and fit excuses to your desires. You just want Bob gone, and it doesn't always come across as rational. But hey it is what it is.

Me, I still don't see any actual reason to fire Bob Bradley; the results the US has been getting with him are probably about what they would be under just about anyone else, and the middle of qualifying is not the time for a coaching change, we're not Mexico.

 

The Marco van Baster who left his top scorer on the bench in a World Cup knockout game while down a goal?

Yeah... no.

 

What if Van Nistelroy was messing with Marco's wife though?

 

Hmm, well if she was hot then Ruud might have injured himself high-fiving the rest of his teammates. So... point taken.

 

This sentiment crops up all the time. Pardon the double negative, this is not an argument not to fire him. It's not necessarily an argument to fire him either, but it sure doesn't support his case.

 

Unless Bradley slept with the chilean ref's wife before the match (and sent him a dvd of it) I don't see how much negative can be gleaned from the Italy match.
The US could have constructed a better bunker and played for a 1-0, then 1-1 finish, I suppose, but really, Italy was simply better. In the first half, we had some very nice moments, but they were controlling the game. After the sending off (which was merely harsh until he didn't send off altidore's mugger, when it became clear he had money down) the US was always going to falter over the following 60 minutes.
Down a man against very superior players is a monster ask, and we don't have the defenders to pull off a 60 minute bunker in those circs. Oddly, we did in the mid-90s, though.
Haven't been a Bradley supporter in this thread, but there was no evidence against him in this one.

 

It never ceases to amaze me how little some people know about economics. There's this little thing called cash flow, you see.

Cash flow comes from 1) people buying tickets, team merchandise and sometimes parking/concessions 2) money paid by TV to the league/teams to air games 3) money paid to the league/teams to hawk a product (adidas, nike, etc.) and sometimes 4) a really rich guy/gal just deciding to spend money on a team because he loves to lose money while watching soccer.

Don't you think that if MLS could compete with the overseas leagues to keep the best players by paying higher wages, they would?

It's a friggin business, dude, stop making uninformed comments.

 

*sigh* If we would have bunkered for 57 minutes, then people on here would be calling for Bob's head for not having the confidence to attack, put the game away, and for playing boring, bunkering soccer.

 

Perhaps you're proud of your witty remark that was not relevant to my post?

 

Yeah. I actually miss the days when we could bunker effectively. We tended to get better results that way. I mean when you are overmatched in talent and a man down with a one goal lead, FFS bunker!

 

I get it. You aren't concerned with results so much as style of play, tactics, game management, etc. You think these things aren't up to par with Bob Bradley.

I happen to think that our team is well organized and plays a style that suits their particular talent level. I think the team is perfectly capable of getting results against both top tier teams and teams we outclass.

In short I disagree with you. So I must have my head up my ass.

 

You must understand that when the USMNT loses, Big Soccer has one massive "blamestorming" session. And the easiest target is always the coach. But what if our forward (almost unanimously thought of as our best forward) actually finishes a relatively simple chance in the first half. He didn't even get it on goal. What if our midfielder (one who starts in the Bundesliga, playing at the highest level of any midfielder) actually finishes his chance in the first half. What if our forward off the bench (a guy people have been clamoring for) actually finishes a relatively easy header in the second half instead of blasting it over.

Big Soccer always puts the majority of the blame on the coach. It's just the way we are. Our players had opportunities out there that they didn't take advantage of. Our coach put us in a position to be 1-0 up on the World Champions at halftime. And he gets ZERO credit. Which is fine. We all know that's how it works. You have to win to get credit for anything. But is it Bob Bradley's fault that his central midfielder (arguably the best in MLS) moronically and unneccessarily hacks down the Italian player least likely to be dangerous with the ball at his feet (Gattuso)? What was that? It may not have been a red card, but it sure as hell was idiotic.

And sometimes you just lose to the better team. Sometimes you lose to the World Champions after being down a man for 60 minutes. Sometimes you lose because you're opponent scores a couple of golazos. I mean, that was a ridiculous goal by Rossi. That was an amazing play by Pirlo to set up the second goal for Rossi. That was a perfect shot to the corner from distance by De Rossi. If you asked De Rossi to do that again under the same circumstances, he'd probably need 20 more chances to make it happen. Sometimes it's just not your day.

Now people can moan and whine and say, "he shouldn't have started this or that player." But the player selection yesterday was fine. When it was 11 v 11 we were standing toe-to-toe with the World Champions. Lippi made some great adjustments in the second half, they took advantage of our exhausted players, and the scoreline really flattered Italy. Sometimes you tip your hat to your opponents, and move on to the next match.

 

Clint Eastwood, stop raging against strawmen.

Thanks!

 

Great point.

 

US 1-4 Argentina
US 1-3 Paraguay
US 0-1 Colombia
US 2-4 Brazil
US 0-1 Sweden
US 0-2 England
US 0-1 Spain
US 0-0 Argentina (HOORAY!!)
US 1-3 Italy

Wow. You do get it.

 

Hey I heard Bob Bradley is up for the Chelsea job before Ancelotti became available