Predict the "biggest" nation to not qualify

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by OverThere, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While winning a WCQ in Moscow is daunting (no one has), a draw would see you through. And even if you fail, you are still the best team in the playoffs, though many tough teams could find themselves finishing 2nd: France, Portugal, Croatia, etc.
     
  2. ECUNCHATER

    ECUNCHATER Member

    Sep 30, 1999
    Mexico has a lot of home games left including USA, Honduras, and El Salvador. They also get an away game vs T&T. They are sitting good. The USA still has to travel to Mexico, T&T, and Honduras. Mexico has a pretty easy schedule. They have only lost something like 1 home World Cup qualifier and USA has only tied them once in Mexico City.
     
  3. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you take it the wrong way. We're not saying (or at least I'm not) that Germany is the worst of these teams, but if they didn't qualify, it would be a FAR bigger shock than anyone else (including Argentina). And with the playoffs looming if you lose in Moscow, it has to be considered a possibility, but not necessarily probability.
     
  4. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Even if you have to qualify through the play offs you'll probably be fine and will be considered one of the favourites again to win the whole thing. Much as it pains me to say this, the Germans always know how to bring it on when it really counts.
     
  5. Borruma

    Borruma Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Dublin
    Germany have never failed to qualify for a world cup. In fact I don't they have ever finished outside the top eight side at a WC (in which they competed). So yeah, would be the biggest shock of all. (EDIT: Actually looked it up - only once outside the top eight - in 1938)
     
  6. nutbar

    nutbar New Member

    Apr 22, 2001
    Canada
    You forgot the champions of Africa, Egypt. Though they're hardly ever in the WC anyway.
     
  7. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They only played games in African zone. It's too early to tell.

    Nigeria is only 2 points behind Tunisia. Tunisia has qualified for the last three Finals. So either Tunisia or Nigeria will be consider a big team to fail.
     
  8. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    The magical "kiss of death".....IIRC Germany had "never lost a world qualiyier at home"....until England blistered them 5-1 in Munich...

    Croatia had "never lost a competitive game in Zagreb".....until England blistered them 4-1...

    Early last season I'm watching an EPL game and Robbie Keane steps up to take a penalty...the announcer says..."He's never missed one before"....

    .....Keeper saved it.

    point is....there's a first time for everything.
     
  9. FCShambles

    FCShambles New Member

    May 8, 2009
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zaki's injury certainly isn't helping them right now. I always feel like the African teams are such a crapshoot. Nigeria should go through and probably Ivory Coast and Ghana, but you just never know who will get the other spots.
     
  10. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    No, Germany had lost at home prior to this, to Portugal in 1985.
     
  11. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    After they had already qualified so there was nothing on the line for them. Different story in the Munich game.
     
  12. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Amazingly nobody has mentioned Russia yet! One of the top 8-10 teams in the world at the moment, but may not qualify.

    Fifth is definitely a possibility for Argentina. But 5th is also an almost certain qualification for Argentina. Just don't see El Salvador or Honduras even hanging within Argentina in the playoff, even Mexico is a stretch.

    That said, Ecuador will probably have more than 23 points entering the final day of qualifying so things could get dicey for the Argies if they don't beat Brasil. Especially since Uruguay have a superior goal difference.
     
  13. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But just imagine this best worst case scenario. Mexico finishes 4th and Argentina 5th. That would be an amazing playoff game.
     
  14. Borruma

    Borruma Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Dublin
    I never said it couldn't happen. I was trying to explain why it would be such a massive shock.
     
  15. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    2 time world cup champions Uruguay

    close thread :D
     
  16. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Well, if you want to narrow it down to home games in World Cup qualification that actually meant something you get a pretty small total for Germany. 1986 was the first time ever Germany actually had a somewhat tough group in qualifying. In 1990 the Netherlands were a very strong opponent of course, but the games didn't mean much as you only had to come in second in a 4 team group with Finland and Wales. 1998, with Ukraine and Portugal, could be classified as a tough group too if you're generous, I guess. So, prior to 2002 you can count the number of qualification games were something was on the line for Germany on one hand.
     
  17. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    In which case they haven't done too well then when "something was on the line"......got battered by England in Munich in 2001 "when something was on the line"....didn't have to qualify in 2006 and now gotta get a result in Russia "with something on the line" for 2010.
     
  18. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That's not quite right. Only the two best second placed teams from the three 4 team groups qualified.

    Germany nearly failed to qualify that time.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)
     
  19. balla

    balla Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Melbourne,Australia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    2006
     
  20. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Well, I actually think Germany's record in World Cup qualifying is somewhat overrated (although it isn't bad by any means of course, it's just that they often had pretty lucky draws. However, I don't think that a single not so good game makes a trend either way :D.

    I had actually forgotten about that - still, Germany already knew after 4 out of 6 games that they would qualify no matter what happened in the other groups if they won their remaining home games against Finland and Wales. Biggest problem was the draw in Wales, if they had won there Germany would have won the group. Not losing their two games against the Netherlands was certainly a very good result, and exactly what they needed, don't want to put that down.
     
  21. spoonman

    spoonman Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  22. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    BigSoccer has trouble with links with brackets at the end, add one at the end of the link and you'll get the page ;).
     
  23. nutbar

    nutbar New Member

    Apr 22, 2001
    Canada
    That's true, it's tough to predict. Especially in the last two campaigns, many African nations seem to have improved greatly and the likes of Cameroon and Nigeria can't sleepwalk through qualifying anymore.
     
  24. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    what ?
     
  25. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    In 2006 Uruguay didn't qualify and it wasn't a huge upset.
     

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