The United Set-pieces of America

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by cpwilson80, Sep 11, 2008.

  1. ty webb

    ty webb Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    NYC
    That is very interesting and could explain why we look lost in the final third.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    It also could explain why we keep winning games with goals off of set pieces.
     
  3. yagua

    yagua New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    I'm a gringo living in Honduras and I watched the pre and post game on Honduran TV. The game announcers all said that for Honduras to win they had to defend well against set pieces because that is where the US scores alot of goals and is really the only way that the US is dangerous.
    The post game interviews with a number of Honduran players all were the same, "we practiced to defend set pieces because we knew that was where the gringos were dangerous and we just didn't do it quite well enough"
    So if teams start keying on defending set pieces is that a problem? Or will that give us more openings in the run of play?
     
  4. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or it's (also) bit of a self-flattering claim on the Hondurans' part. We created real chances from the run of play and didn't do a good job finishing. Sure, that partly means we need better finishing. But the chances were there. More chances, certainly, than Honduras generated. (And, really, they didn't generate their goal so much as we handed it to them. Great finish by Costly, mind you, but hardly the result of a superior passing attack.)
     
  5. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a real good thing if other teams prepare for our set pieces and still can't stop us.

    Do we need to score more goals from the run of play? Sure. Will it improve? Hopefully it will as our team starts to settle in on our midfield formations.
     
  6. ty webb

    ty webb Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    NYC
    Or, if we don't get goals off of set pieces, we appear completely lost, like at CR.
     
  7. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually,we got a goal off a setpiece and still looked lost.
     
  8. sportscribe

    sportscribe Member

    Jul 2, 2007
    The team scores an inordinate amount of goals off of set-pieces. While it's certainly not a bad thing, it's not great either when you consider the lack of goals from open play. This can prove decisive against top quality teams.
     
  9. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This point is excellent and has been made a number of times, here, on this thread. In the old days we used to be poor on scoring on set plays and also poor on defending against set pieces. I cannot remember the last time we were scored on from a set piece (I am certain someone else here can :)). Believe me, if this is our biggest problem, it is a good one to have.
     
  10. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I truly believe our main offensive goal is to get some kind of setpiece.
     
  11. giffenbone

    giffenbone Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    Of note.

    Our only set piece goal of the Confed Cup was the PK against Italy...set up by something from the run of play.

    Everything else was not scored off a set piece, but rather through beautiful buildups (except the Charlie Davies hustle goal, still technically not off a set piece though).
     
  12. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering when this thread would resurface. Good job.

    You think Brazil is upset they scored so many goals off of set pieces?
     
  13. Arid_Torpor

    Arid_Torpor Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    Durham, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And for those who are counting, that makes seven in a row, all against world class competition.
     
  14. Absolute

    Absolute BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 18, 2007
    Green Hell
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I am personally glad our goals have been during the run of play. I've been sick of being the king of set pieces.
     
  15. EarthquakesandToffee

    Apr 30, 2009
    Bay Area
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any team with out height and athleticism should play for set pieces. It is certainly not a bad strategy to employ.

    With that being said, our speed is a great asset as well and the counter attacking with Davies and Donovan has been nice to watch.
     
  16. Galaxian

    Galaxian Member

    Oct 30, 2005
    Newport Beach, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is what I'm most pleased about at the end of this tournament.

    If you had told me before the tournament that we would score three against Egypt, two against Spain, and two against Brazil, all in the run of play, I would have told you to shut your lying mouth :D

    This tournament was better than we could have hoped for, and I'm so glad we sent a C team to Copa America...
     
  17. City Dave

    City Dave Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We scored a goal yesterday off of a set piece, granted it was Brazil's set piece. :D
     
  18. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our entire team that was the karmic payback goal of the tournament :)

    I was very, very pleased with our run-of-play attack, particularly against Egypt. Also, props to Spector, who had two excellent crosses for assists this tournament and provided us with an attacking option we had missed previously.
     
  19. giffenbone

    giffenbone Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    Yes props indeed on that, and on generally good defending during the run of play.

    However, he did get beat 2-3 times this tournament on set pieces that resulted in dangerous chances for the opposition, including one that resulted in a goal.
     

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