The Truth, It Hurted -The Transfer Lies & Rumor Thread

That would be incredible and would immediately upgrade the teams most pressing needs. But as you said, I would not put too much into it.

Exactly, his first two months were incredible then his form began to fluctuate for the past two seasons. If a decent offer comes in for him I would not hesitate to sell him.

 

I honestly don't think Juande will be here next season.

 

If Juande goes, the 4-4-2 system with a double pivot is likely to go with him (not definitely, but likely) so I think you would be talking about someone in the starting 11.
Personally I think Wesley (despite a mid season dip, part of which was down to injury) had a good first season but a poor second season (again not always due to what was going on, on the pitch.)
There are certainly question marks against him, but shipping him out would not be at the forefront of my thinking this summer...however as always it depends a lot on the offers we get for him and the alternatives available to us.

 

This Clichy idea is getting me excited!

 

This season,sneijder was almost always played out of position.His best position is just behind the striker.He cannot play even in the central midfield with just one DM.He plays best in the hole just like kaka.

With JR's 4-4-2,there is no place for sneijder in the team.Its better we sell him rather than playing him out of position.

One thing thats puts sneijder apart is that he gives his 100% on the field unlike guti and VDV.He is a true fighter and will never give up.

 

Amen.

 

Well this would make more sense than trying to sell players who might actually contribute!!!

It never ceases to amaze me the shortsightedness of some people. People want to sell players who actually contribute when we have a bunch of useless ones still on the roster.


I was going to start a Real Madrid Survivor Thread after Valencia game so we can vote players off....even though we have like 3 games left in the season.

 

Apparently, the source 'Onda Cero' is claiming that this is where Florentino is currently at:

Maicon - agreement with player
Clichy - agreement with player and club
Kaka - agreement with player and club
Alonso - agreement with player
Ribery - agreement with player
Ronaldo - no agreement so far but still in Florentino's plans

 

This would be a near perfect addition, taking care of our backline situation (move Ramos to CB), Xabi being a key figure next to Lass, adding Ribery with hopefully Cristiano.

The only "?" is Kaka. If he can stay healthy it could be a great addition if he's had at a good price.


EDIT: I just want to add I highly doubt he's secured all of that.

 

Like you I am very sceptical, but at the end of the day, having an agreement with a player could be anything from "Yea, that sounds interesting, but you'd have to talk to the club first", to "Absolutely, count me in, I want to join you at Madrid!!".

Convincing the club is always the hardest part, especially when you are talking about players such as Maicon, Ronaldo and Ribery. I can believe the Kaka one, not sure about Clichy, I don't know how willing Arsenal would be to do business for a good price.

As I said though, even if all that were true, Florentino would still have an insane amount of work to do.

 

Clichy would have to have a stern foot down wanting to come here, I just don't know if he would play that role. I don't see Wenger trying to do us a favor and offload him to us either.

Regarding Kaka, if the Kaka thing has any legs then I don't see Juande Ramos staying here. If Florentino has learned from his mistakes like the media is trying to dupe us into believing, I don't see the purpose in him buying an AM when we are playing a 4-4-2.

So either the Kaka thing is a lie or we are getting a new coach who plays a 4-4-3 or a 4-2-3-1 system.

Why do I want to point this out?

Key factor is using both those systems is relying on one striker with help coming form Ribery, Robben (if he stays), or Cristiano (if he comes).

Xabi would fit next to our DM, Lass.

So where does Higuain fit in this system, with Raul sure to start? Huntelaar? Ruud? Negredo?


Personally I rather like playing an attacking 4-2-3-1.

With Higuain the focal point striker (or Ibra, but he won't come). Negredo and Raul come from the bench, Huntelaar and Ruud would be on other teams.

Regardless he will, however if this is true (which 9/10 it isn't because he isn't speaking and they are just throwing up their own list no different than anybody else) it is a good start.

My fear is that we sign Tevez and Aguero. We are have enough "Raul" types..

 

Guys, guys, you are talking about Don Florentero here, you are completely underestimating his influence and brains

 

Shame that the only "SEALED" done & dusted one is the one we could do without. ( Kaka )

4-5-1 or 4-3-3 indeed like YS87 said. Can Higuain cut in upfront by himself to lead us on all fronts? With the supporting cast he is supposedly going to have behind him, I wouldnt doubt him.

I really want to draw this out, forgive me "list&formation" haters

Casillas
Maicon Pepe Ramos Clichy
Alonso Lass
Ronaldo Kaka Ribery
PIPITA​

, if its worth anything.. Im sold!

 

I'm with ANY coach who can have us playing a 4-4-3

 

443? I thought only Barca had rights to that formation... referee included.

 

They played a 4-4-5 last game. Forgot the 2 line refs.

 

It certainly looks good on paper. For definite Xabi Alonso's inclusion. If ever there was a time to note that we are crying out for someone who can control the midfield it is tonights match. Get over-run by a way past his prime Baraja and Marchena. Whilst I have sympathy for his midfield companion, Gago, has been looking out of sorts in the midfield for a long time. Great at other things but he can't control the tempo of the game against the better teams.Xabi Alonso should be a massive priority, imo.

I'd also be more interested in Cesc (know it won't happen) because I fear that front 4 would give our defence nothing. Especially when you have two full backs more notorious for their attacking than defending and 2 central defenders who are getting there but not exactly who I would want with such limited protection. Again I think Cesc can assert that desired level of control and has a phenomenal ability to unluck defences as well as pop up with a few goals. May not be as flamboyant as Kaka but Ithink he is more of a priority.

 

This is why I don't think Liverpool will want him. He isn't the player he was a year ago. But Sneijder to Liverpool won't work. They have Gerrard for a playmaker type of role, and also the likes of Yossi Benayoun who are hitting form.

When was I talking about Liverpool? Even though I like Real Madrid, I can admit that Barcelona are the second best in the world. It is no ooint hiding that United are the best. I am not bragging on about it or trying to rub it in your face. Just because we lost 4-1 to Liverpool at Old Trafford, doesn't mean we aren't the best. I thought you would know better.

Of course he has no reason IF Barry doesn't come, but really ask yourself this - you are Benitez - why would you want to buy Barry after seeing Xabi Alonso being Liverpool's second best player this season?

Seriously, was there any need in that? No.

It is a bit funny that one or two of you are still dreaming that Ronaldo could come to Real Madrid. Haven't you read news lately?

 

I am not trying to take the piss or anything mate, but dream on.

The only ones I could see you catching are Maicon and Ribery out of that list.

 

Jog on, MATE.