You Want The Truth........You Can't Handle The Truth|Transfer Lies & Rumors Thread

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  1. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    Remember we bought 3 players during the winter to cover for injuries to Diarra and DLR (and the loss of Robinho), so under that scenario we'd have (I think) one open space. This is why a clearout is likely IMO. It also might be easier to convince new recruits as they might not want to join a team to similar to the one that got demolished by Barca and Liverpool.
     
  2. (De La)Redstriker06

    May 3, 2003
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Assuming we can't convince Xabi Alonso or Cesc Fabregas to come... what would you guys think of snapping up Mikel Arteta?
     
  3. btha

    btha Member

    Mar 27, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Iceland
    Ugh no. He has already peaked IMO, and has been riddled with injuries for the past year or more. He's currently out of action due to knee ligament injury, and has been for like 3 months and will not play this season.

    Edit: Nevermind the fact that he did not play well in La Liga and was loaned to Everton. Not so optimistic that he would play well in La Liga with that record, and at 27 years, there isn't too much time left to adapt with the fight we have for starting places.
     
  4. Gitano

    Gitano New Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Xabi Alonso should be one of the main priorities this summer along with two fullbacks. Him and Lass would upgrade the midfield tremendously. Although I'd prefer Cesc, getting Alonso is more in the realm of reality.
     
  5. LosMereTicos

    LosMereTicos Member

    Sep 15, 2007
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    cmon, give Hunty another year, he hasn't have much of a playing time and getting him to start all the match next season is the only way to decide if he'll stay or leave the following year

    well my dream scenario is for any upcoming president of Madrid to get Ibra, Xabi, Villa, and Silva incase the red nose reindeer still plays hard on CR

    something looking like this would be good to happen next year

    Casillas
    Ramos-Pepe-Garay-Marcelo
    Silva-Xabi-Lass-Robben
    Ibra/Hunty-Villa

    Raul should just put into rest and only come only on 2nd half

    well, Marcelo, he's had a pretty good run these past few weeks, id' say let him on

    then just sell the duo ex Ajax to Chelsea for some lucrative amount, anyway, im sure they would be happier anyway to work under the same countrymen

    and yes, please bring back Granero
     
  6. sportscribe

    sportscribe Member

    Jul 2, 2007
  7. demogorgon

    demogorgon Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    This is a complete disaster. One of the worst defeats in the history of Madrid.
    We need a complete overhaul. Sergio Ramos is (in my eyes ) no longer a starting material as a RB for this team. Move him to CB position and go after Maicon. We also need a world class LB.

    Gago-Lass midfield is simply not working. I never particularly liked 4-4-2 formation so I hope we try something new next season. We have to spend BIG but smart. I would love to see these players: Ronaldo, Diego, Xabi, Maicon, Capel and Vargas.


    Maicon/Opare-Ramos/Garay-Pepe/Heinze-Vargas/Torres
    --------------Lass/Gago----Xabi/De la Red----------
    Ronaldo/Capel-----Diego/Granero/Parejo----Robben/Marcelo
    ------------------Higuain/Raul/Negedo------------------
     
  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Granero has never in his life played as good as Sneijder has in his first months for us.It is also far from sure that he ever will.Why should i sell a very good midfield player, and buy back a potentially good one, how is this supposed to move the team ahead?

    One would think that we learned our lesson from selling very good players on lucrative deals, only to bring in average / potentially good ones.

    It doesn't matter who we sign, there has to be a change of mentality.We have world class players looking like f***ing idiots out there.Sneijder, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, are all players who play under their level.

    You can bring in another promising, or already very good player for him to underperform.If our players would play to the limit of their abilities, the team would be a lot better.

    There is virtually no leveled competition in the squad.Sergio Ramos is playing no matter how well or bad he plays, back when we had decent competition in RB with Cicinho and Diogo fighting for playing time, he played his best, if i can remember correctly.Ever since he was crowned the prince of Madrid, and was handed an automatic starting spot ahead of Salgadold, he progressively became more and more of a headache.
     
  9. LosMereTicos

    LosMereTicos Member

    Sep 15, 2007
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    isn't Opare still like 16 or something?
     
  10. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Very good post, I will rep if it lets me.

    I remember me and a few members (I think natenatenate was one as well) agreeing and discussing about how players are coming to Madrid and digressing after an initial good start.

    It was blown over as ridiculous.

    These players are playing way below their level, I don't know if it's the microwave media, pressure or what it is. Whatever it is... it's hurting us badly.


    This is why I detest automatic starting and playing by decree.

    It is a poison to the team regardless of who the player is and what he may represent. Positions should be award due to present performance and need, not due to lack of competition, favoritism or past achievement.

    We don't know how many players have been stifled due to automatic starting, I personally think VDV good start was ruined due to Sneijder "having" to automatically play.

    Instead of going by form, it's on who is favored more for whatever reason...



    EDIT:
    I can't rep, but if you remind me I'll try and get you for it when I'm allowed to rep you again.
     
  11. halamadrid00

    halamadrid00 Red Card

    Aug 2, 2007
    UK
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    i would have c tevez as our main attacker anyday. look at the work load he puts in. he is a phenom. he is the type of player we need at the mo.

    to be honest half players here mentioned apart from possibly ibra tevez and diego will NOT come to madrid this year

    ribery - barce
    villa - barce
    silva - possibly liverpool
    ronaldo - had our chance and blew it.

    where does that leave us? we havnt got the players in youth to do the job.

    my ideal signings would

    maicon, lahm, diego, tevez, a valencia or santi cazorla or both
     
  12. laudrup

    laudrup BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 14, 2005
     
  13. Steeley

    Steeley New Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'd take him. To be honest, I'd like to see us get more Spanish players as the backbone of the team and hes certainly one I like.
     
  14. demogorgon

    demogorgon Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    I think we all agree that there is something seriously wrong with Real Madrid organization. When was the last time we had a season to remember ? When was a last time we had a team capable of fighting in all three competitions ? When was the last time we had the same coach for a longer period of time. When was the last time a cantera player made an impact in the first team ?

    We need a clean cut. No more quick solutions, we need new foundations. We have no soul, no system of play, no long term plan. Nothing. And we are certainly not a top team anymore.

    If we go back to yesterdays game. Who were their best players? Pique, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta,Puyol and Henry. Most of them are coming from their youth system. Who do we have ? Saint Casillas and Raul who is nearing his retirement. I'm saying this all the time, cantera is the only solution in the long run.We need a 180 degree turn otherwise we will continue on this spiral. Granero, Negredo, Bueno and some younger players will not bring us instant success, but if we give them time to develop they sure will. Not by them self of course, we need to add some world class players and let them gel together into the winning team.

    Stability is the main word. In Real Madrid there is none.

    We were once pride of Spain and the best club of the century. Where are we now ? Big players will thing twice before joining us and who can blame them ?? I would love players like Ronaldo, Silva, Villa join us, but over priority in the years to come is to make another Raul, Casillas,Hierro....
     
  15. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Hierro was purchased from Valladolid, we did not "make" him.
     
  16. demogorgon

    demogorgon Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    So was Raul. But yes Hierro was older when we bought him. My mistake, I thought he was a youngster when we got him.

    Anyway I will use words of one merengue from some other board:

    We lost our soul and it will be damn hard to get it back. We are no better than Inter...No, we are worse than them. We sold our rich history, heritage and philosophy for nothing.
     
  17. Steeley

    Steeley New Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    No he wasn't. Raul was taken from Atleti's disbanded youth academy and had never played a profressional game.
     
  18. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Demo, it's a bit rich of you to admit to forgetting about the history of one of our greatest captains in recent times, and at the same time decry us "selling" our rich history in the very same post.

    The defeat to Barca was hurtful, but it doesn't stem from us "selling"* our history, heritage or philosophy. It stems from having an insufficiently strong first team and squad.

    *(That phrase, by the way, needs to be clarified. How exactly did we sell those things, and how did those "sales" lead to our efforts this season, as opposed to our efforts last season and the season before that?)
     
  19. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    This "organization" will be replaced this elections.

    Last season. We practically arse raped LaLiga. And no, don't tell me Barca was weak excuse because it could be said for us this year. And also the year before that.

    We never were a club who did well in all three competitions anyway.

    Schuster was supposed to last, but his firing was mainly his own fault, not management's

    Ruben Dela Red

    That's all well & good but we are not Arsenal. We cannot go trophy less for more than two years without talk of the club being rebuilt.

    Demo, I understand your points, but how long do you think the fans could go without winning trophies?
     
  20. demogorgon

    demogorgon Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    I knew that Hierro joined us from Valladolid, but I thought he was younger. A mistake nothing more, I doubt many people know how old he was when he joined us:).

    As for the phrase thing, I don't think it's something I should explain. Some will know the meaning of this, some wont.


    Real Madrid fans are inpatient and that's why I feel we need a president who will be able to come over fans criticism. I seriously doubt Perez is that kind of person. He would rather buy another superstar to silence his critics than do things which may not be popular, but would benefit team in the future.
     
  21. razingtonbear

    razingtonbear Member+

    Aug 8, 2007
    So what you are saying is,

    You can't explain the meaning yourself, so you won't bother trying in an attempt to save face?
     
  22. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    After the Barca match i feel like an outpatient.

    Yes, that's exactly what he was saying.
     
  23. demogorgon

    demogorgon Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    Ok :).
     
  24. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    Iniesta and Xavi were good, but we were absolutley torn asunder by Messi and to a lesser extent Henry. With Messi we needed three players in order to tackle him every time. He was dribbling through us, passing over, through and scoring. Messi was a damn fortunate (though intelligent) signing from abroad and Henry was a 'mercenary' (according to your definition). Our problem is that we don't have a Messi, not that we aren't starting with Negredo and Granero.
     
  25. dooda

    dooda Member+

    Jun 8, 2005
    Kuwait
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I thought Henry had a better game then Messi, and we all know why that was.
     

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