You figure clubs around the world would have known this before! The guy has had a couple of long stretches of unemployment. Five years before being hired by Feyenoord and two years before the Galaxy.
I actually enjoyed Carver and frankly he did the league a favour by calling some officiating performances "a disgrace," because that's exactly what some of them were, an absolute disgrace. The officiating in MLS needs to step it up.
why he is leaving doesnt really matter. he is leaving, so what. he is dead to me now, hopefully all mls fans. if he wants to go back to the bottom of soccer and work his way back up in england so be it. best of luck to him, wish him the best. you don't leave in the middle of the season. you just don't.
If TFC somehow doesn't make the playoffs this year, does this take Mo's head off the chopping block since he'd have a built-in excuse?
Probably the opposite in my estimation. Rumors, of which there are many, are that Carver had a falling out with Mo and that led to his decision. I'm not unhappy to have a chance at renewal (and more elegant football) at TFC but if the season goes to hell it's not gonna look great on Mo. He's supposed to be the "big vision" guy after essentially firing himself after one year and then running off another manager - good or bad Carver was his hire - 6 games into his second season serious questions would have to be asked if we're rebuilding to start year four. I'd say this much more of a roll of the dice for Mo than an butt cover. Regarding the other issue that's floating around in this forum about foreign coachs: on this point DetriotTFC - nothing personal! - is representative of a big faction of TFC fandom who look outward for legitimacy. It`s a reflection of the fact that TFC was successful in converting large numbers of soccer fans who had previously mostly ignored the game on this contintent before TFC`s arrival. That was a great thing for the club (and the league) at the gate and a big part of what created the different atmosphere that was immeadiately noted in Toronto but it does mean that we still have a bit of a hard-on for anyone with an accent. Unlearning that lesson will take someone domestic being given the chance and being successful. It didn`t help that MLSE hired a noted Scot to be the first manager and made a serious point of playing up his connections to the game back there in their marketing.
Rumor has it Mo and Cummins were pushing 4-3-3 but Carver was reluctant. Speculation is Carver said '**** it. Do it your way and we will see what happens', and what happened was the teams best performance of the season. So JC is made to look like an idiot and leaves with his tail between his legs. Now, take none of that as gospel. It is pure speculation.
wouldnt be suprised if it happened that way to be honest...the 4-3-3 worked VERY WELL for TFC...i hope they actually play that formation against KC once again
What I don't get is the comments that say if a manager fails in MLS, it's MLS' fault and not the manager's. If you are a manager, coach the team you are given and put the best team on the field every week that you can. Let someone else worry about the money and such. Coach up your players, don't whine for different players. When you hear guys whining like Ruud and Carver, well, forget about them, they are done. Who wants to play for a coach that publicly outs you as "not good enough" every week? It's BS coaching and bad player management. Carver sucked. I could get more out of that lineup than he did and I haven't coached above about 2nd grade.
What will all of us stupid, ignorant North Americans do without John Carver telling us how he did things back in England?
But, apparently, not a problem for Steve Nicol. If Carver blames "the constraints in the league" for his lack of success, that's just an excuse. A good manager can win here and a bad manager will lose here, regardless of where he's from. Plus, if foreign managers avoid MLS for whatever reason, that just opens up more jobs for MLS veterans. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm sure I'm in the same camp as a number of people who think the "constraints of the league" were really just a crutch John Carver used for not being able to handle being the top dog.
They can. They do. Really. They do it, which means they can. You may think it's a bad idea for the league take such a hard line. That's cool. But "cannot" is inaccurate because they do have that right. Anyways, Rodney Wallace bitched about Jair Marrufo's phantom handball call in week one. I don't recall seeing a fine for young Mr. Wallace, and Marrufo didn't officiate for close to a month so keep that in mind.
Bullshit. It would be ridiculous if they didn't. Are you so naive to think John Carver is just 'calling it as he sees it' and not trying to manipulate it for his own ends? One of the very best things I can say about American soccer is that we don't allow that crap. No ManU calls here. Superstar calls, maybe, but no ManU calls.
Does that make it right? No. I find the lack of freedom of speech recently in MLS disturbing, with what we're talking about and also the Tim Hanley thing.
Freedom of speech? Are you ********ing kidding me? Earth to scaryice, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Managers in other countries never get in trouble for complaining about the refs: http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/engla...duffen-phil-brown-tells-the-truth-about-fabre http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-deceive-as-plucky-Wigan-are-swept-aside.html http://fourfourtwo.com/news/italy/27096/default.aspx http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/football/04/06/england.allardyce/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/27/newcastleunited-premierleague
Sports leagues in this country rarely allow public criticism of officiating without repercussion. And it's not a First Amendment situation. Congress ain't making no law abridging the freedom of speech here. The Hanley situation was more about someone being completely unprofessional. Just because life may be more interesting when people speak their minds doesn't mean it serves the best interests of the league involved when public criticism of officiating is allowed. It may seem that way when you're 26, but it ain't the case.