Adidas dominate MLS?

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by eiresoccer, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. eiresoccer

    eiresoccer New Member

    Dec 12, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I wanted to know peoples opinions of Adidas dominance in the MLS. Everything in the league is sponsored by Adidas, whether it is jerseys, cleats, all billboards etc.
    Do you think it would be a good idea to open it up and allow other sponsers, like Nike and Puma, an easier avenue to have their names on jerseys and outside stadiums etc, or do you agree with Adidas dominance since they have had so much influence in helping MLS grow?

    (Also, I had the opportunity to talk to the marketing director at Diadora to get his opinion on this http://soccercleats101.com/2009/04/09/questions-with-diadora-soccer-usa/)
     
  2. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I say keep with the current contract.
     
  3. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players are allowed to wear whatever cleats they want. Diadoras have really wide heels.
     
  4. Yukon Cornelius

    Oct 24, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm not sure that's the case, Dr. D - or at least not without prior permission. I seem to remember a story about Mike Petke getting really excited about a new brand of boots only to have them red-carded by the league (although that was in the first couple of years of the Adidas deal).

    One way or another, my favorite Fire jersey ever was the Puma shirt from the last season before the Adidas deal, and I really miss the variety of styles and looks in the league.

    But, having said that, a) even the variety has come a long way since the Adidas deal started, and b) when Adidas came in we had, what, 12 teams? They committed $150 million to a twelve team league at a time when not a lot of people were buying in. So it's more than worth it to me.

    ...

    On the other hand, wasn't at least some of that money supposed to go to fund the reserve league?
     
  5. eiresoccer

    eiresoccer New Member

    Dec 12, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Players have to wear Adidas unless they get written permission from other footwear companies, so any new players or players just under the radar can not wear their desired cleat. Very frustrating if you prefer a certain cleat/style.

    I agree Yukon Cornelius, they did take a very big gamble investing a huge amount in the league to get it going. I think maybe it might be time for them to relenquish some of their control and allow players to choose.
     
  6. SirDuke

    SirDuke Member

    Feb 14, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    If any other sporting company wishes to put up $150 mil over 10 years to outfit the teams, then maybe this would be worthwhile. From the way it sounds, not many people remember the kind of victory that deal was viewed as.
     
  7. Yukon Cornelius

    Oct 24, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Ah - found the article about Petke...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/sports/soccer-report-taylor-and-shoes-are-red-hot.html
    It's down at the bottom...
    Although, interestingly, it says that players get a choice of a few brands...

    The other side of this is that we can be pretty sure that the Beckham deal never would've happened without the Adidas deal.... whether that's a good thing or bad, and the level of influence shoemakers have over roster decisions at your favorite club, we can all debate.
     
  8. VAComet85

    VAComet85 Member

    Dec 23, 2007
    Tampa Bay, FL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When the league/teams can demand enough attention (CASH) internationally to secure lucrative individual team jersey/sponsorship deals then I'm all for the Adidas domination to end. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a legit economic reason (especially in this climate) to shrug off the deal the league has now. Just think back to the pre-deal days, I mean it may not be ideal now but at least we can buy jerseys at major retailers, t-shirts, jackets, memorabilia, etc. And thats due to the penetration Adidas has internationally in essentially every sports store from the big-box stores to the local hole-in-the-wall.

    Personally, I wouldn't mind seing DC United in a Man U-esque all black kit or having Umbro come in (most comfortable jerseys I've ever worn, England Umbro circa 2005) though!
     
  9. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering what Adidas does for MLS, its perfectly fine with me. Just like with single entity. While having single entity may keep teams from signing exactly who they want, its that business structure that has MLS stronger financially than most sports leagues in the world.

    Its the same with Adidas. With all of the financial influx and benefits that the league gets from Adidas, there's no reason to change it.

    But as also as with single entity, once the league gets strong enough, then Adidas' totality should be abandoned.
     
  10. Retsam

    Retsam Member

    Mar 12, 2007
    Berea, Kentucky
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You should be more afraid of Adidas leaving MLS then MLS leaving Adidas. Nobody wants to see naked soccer players. All that running and no sleeves to pull on. Scary stuff.
     
  11. churchill2000

    churchill2000 3x MLS Cup Champions

    Jul 12, 2004
    Monde Virtuel
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy


    CMIIR, but wasn't that what sealed the deal for Adidas over Nike?
    With the reserve league gone . . . I personally can't wait for the deal to end.
     
  12. Ikari

    Ikari Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    Las Vegas, NV
    Oh, there would be things to pull on. :D
     
  13. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    You mean, you wouldn't mind United going with Nike.:p
     
  14. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    given what Nike was putting out for kits in 2004-2005 when the deal came out, the thought of Nike earning the league contract was a scary one.

    /pool balls for everyone!
     
  15. eiresoccer

    eiresoccer New Member

    Dec 12, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Originally Posted by Retsam [​IMG]
    You should be more afraid of Adidas leaving MLS then MLS leaving Adidas. Nobody wants to see naked soccer players. All that running and no sleeves to pull on. Scary stuff.

    This is a very good point! But to be honest, I think MLS is at the stage where another team might step in. Esp since Nike have control of all things to do with national team. I have to agree that the Beckham deal would never have happened without Adidas...but lets be honest they have made a fortune in return for the deal, think of all the 'Beckham' jerseys and soccer cleats sold! It was a win-win for both parties!
     
  16. CBusCrew12

    CBusCrew12 Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe MLS should put Taylor Twellman in charge of ordering shirt sizes.
     
  17. Ted Lyons

    Ted Lyons Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Tucson, Arizona
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :rolleyes:

    Shoots self in head.
     
  18. SonicDeathMonkey

    Atlanta United
    Jun 24, 2008
    Conyers, Ga.
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can think of 150 million reasons why I like the current Adidas deal.
     
  19. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    First off, I love Diadora cleats.

    Second, your statement is only partly true. If a player had a contract with a shoe company, they can wear whatever brand of cleats that they want. Donovan wears Nike. Blanco wears some random Mexican brand I think. Brian Ching wears Puma.

    However, if a player does not have a shoe contract, they must wear adidas cleats or they get a fine.

    Last season, Greg Vanney was having a dispute with his shoe contract company (Puma). He liked the feel of the shoes, but didn't want to promote Puma while in dispute, so he put tape over the logo. MLS fined him for every game he had the tape on his shoes.

    You can look at the developmental players and rookies who are far less likely to get a shoe deal out of college. Those guys all wear adidas. It isn't a coincidence.
     
  20. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Adidas didn't terminate the reserve league. MLS did, due to the fact that they did a shitty job in setting the system up. Why be angry with Adidas? All they did was provide the funding for the program. It was MLS that screwed the pooch by doing such a poor job in terms of scheduling and roster restrictions.
     
  21. VAComet85

    VAComet85 Member

    Dec 23, 2007
    Tampa Bay, FL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I wasn't clear in what I was saying. I think DC United with the black Nike ManU style jersey would be sweet. And apart from that I think Umbro makes really nice and comfortable jerseys that would be cool to see in the league. Poor grammar, my bad.:eek:
     
  22. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dont mind it but its kind of Anti-American....you know the whole Capitalism and Competition thing.
     
  23. TinManJoshua

    TinManJoshua Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Portsmouth FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I disagree. I think it's the very peak of capitalism: Buy out the competition. It's not like the league just said "Hey, everyone, use ADIDAS!" What they actually said was more like, "Hey, everyone, ADIDAS gave us a buttload of money for all of you to wear there kits!"
     
  24. Retsam

    Retsam Member

    Mar 12, 2007
    Berea, Kentucky
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In America, you wear Adidas. In Communist MLS, Adidas wears you!
     
  25. Devil_78

    Devil_78 Member

    May 7, 2001
    Kashiwazaki, Japan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I suppose the debate over this single entity thing has 2 sides to it. On the plus side, the league gets a big chunk of cash. I am assuming that some of it is diverted to the clubs for their own use. No club gets a significantly larger chunk than any other, maintaining parity.

    However, the deal stifles competition. Established players can seek out deals with other boot manufacturers, but the new guys end up with kit that they may not necessarily like, potentially harming their development. Also, clubs cannot sign up the best deal that their team can. After all, United managed to sign up Nike at $500,000,000 (roughly). However, with an open system, the "brand" clubs will be able to sign big deals, whilst the smaller clubs will lose out.

    Its swings and roundabouts. Both sides have good and bad points. I suppose that at the moment, the ability to guarantee league wide parity, and a REALLY LARGE amount of money is what swung it for Adidas.

    I guess that once the league has "matured" (whenever THAT may be!) they will open up the league for competition. But not yet.
     

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