England v Ukraine: 2010 World Cup Qualifier, Wembley Stadium: Wed 1 Apr. 09 [R]

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  1. RobTheFool

    RobTheFool Member+

    Apr 19, 2008
    London, England
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    :) That has put me in a good mood lol. It seems like the only teams that will be good enough to compete against us in 2010 are Spain, Germany, Netherlands and Brazil. Portugal will not qualify, Argentina are in shambles, as are France. It's looking good lol :)
     
  2. Karloski

    Karloski Member+

    Oct 26, 2006
    England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I've got a feeling Argentina and France will still make it, and I try not to look to far ahead when it comes to England. However, it's nice to see the so called other big guns struggling, after all the flack we have had to put up with over the last couple of years.
     
  3. RobTheFool

    RobTheFool Member+

    Apr 19, 2008
    London, England
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah. Also I hear that Spain aren't playing that well either, the other day they got a flukey win over Turkey with a late goal, and today they played Turkey again and came from behind and didn't play too well I gather :) I won't get too complacent though lol as we are talking about England :p
     
  4. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    Too early, just for example 1994 Brazil almost didn't qualify, if they didn't beat Urguay in the last game, Urguay would've gone instead of them. They won that tournament of course. That year Argentina lost 5-0 to Columbia at home in their last game, which meant they almost didn't qualify too (in the tournament they were okay, but went out in the 2nd round.

    And of course in the run-up to the 2002 World Cup England beat Germany 5-1 in Germany, but Germany still mad ethe WC final.

    Many times strong qualifiers have flopped and weak qualifieers suceeded - so I'm not counting England's chickens jsut yet.
     
  5. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    We didn't play that well at times but the three points is all that matters.
    It was a nervy game and I was impressed with a few of Ukraine's players who I haven't seen much of before.

    I like Crouch but he can't play from the start in games against the top teams.
    He took his goal well tonight but he makes defending easier for the top defenders as they don't have to worry about pace at all.
    He's very good for set pieces and a good option from the bench but we need someone playing their that will get the best out of Rooney.
    That isn't Crouch.
     
  6. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
    Club:
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Game should have been 1-1. We played so bad it looked like we took you guys down with us :eek: End of the day, you had more quality and you found a way to win, good job. Now please spank Croatia again and have the group wrapped up before your trip to Ukraine in October....please :D
     
  7. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'd imagine Capello will start him on the right rather than Lennon but I might be wrong.
     
  8. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Options.....It's a nice problem to have..:cool:
     
  9. cromagnum

    cromagnum Member+

    Aug 13, 2007
    lol dont worry about england you should be worrying about us in zagreb..we outplayed you guys last time in ukraine without eduardo or kranjcar..assuming those 2 will be healthy we have more quality then you and should beat you at home when we outplayed you on the road without 2 of our best players..

    p.s thanks england for the win..:D
     
  10. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    Remarkably troll free these days isn't it?
     
  11. FootyFan365

    FootyFan365 Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Indy
    Club:
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    We were missing Milevsky too, it is what it is. You serously going to play the Eduardo card, man?!? That dark coating of skin..you sure he's Croatian?? lol.

    If we take a point in Zagreb we will have the advantage. You are 3 pts up and we have a game in hand. You've already played Andorra twice, we haven't even played them...
     
  12. FootballfanUSA

    FootballfanUSA New Member

    Feb 11, 2008
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LONDON (AP)—He says he’s taken enough flak for making his NCAA college basketball selections, so President Barack Obama says he’s not about to wade into European soccer—or, as he correctly called it in London, “football.”
    He was asked at a news conference Wednesday with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown whether he had a “good luck message” for the team from England, which is playing Ukraine later in the day in a World Cup qualifying match.
    Obama says his college basketball predictions, in which he envisioned North Carolina taking the championship, caused “all kinds of controversy.”
    And he says although he “didn’t get a briefing” on it, he knows it would “be a mistake” to offer his views on soccer.

    Why would England need a good luck message to beat WCQ minnows Ukraine?
     
  13. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ukraine are certainly not a "minnow", they are ranked 14th in the world just behind France and the Czech Republic and ahead of the USA, are usually decent and have been on a strong run of form.

    This is the only qualifying group in Europe to have 3 teams in the top 20 world rankings. Yet here we are with a 100% win record.

    But then this is from the nobsack FootballFanUsa who kept giving it the big mouth before the England - Germany friendly about how brilliant Germany are and how they were going to win. Mysteriously quiet after that game.
     
  14. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Agreed. Crouch doesn't have the physical strength to hold the ball up a la Heskey or Agbonlahor. Nor, as you mention, does he have the pace to trouble defenders. Basically, he's not the player to partner Rooney. He has a surprisingly good touch for a big man though :p
     
  15. ReMad

    ReMad Member

    Feb 25, 2007
  16. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    sams army are quiet round here lately, almost....too quiet
     
  17. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    thats all you need to know right there...
     
  18. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    I do not wish to troll or rain on anyone's parade but I do not think you guys will be able to maintain that 100% record throughout.
     
  19. Karloski

    Karloski Member+

    Oct 26, 2006
    England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We don't need to. Hopefully the main damage has been done.
     
  20. revelationx

    revelationx Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    London
    Job done. 5 wins on the spin. We have now played all the other teams in the Group and defeated them. From this position we should go on and qualify. Hopefully we can win our next games and qualify at the soonest possible opportunity. This would then give us the opportunity to try out fringe players in actual competitive matches without consequence of losing/dropping pts. Next up is Andorra so there should be a few goals in that match.
     
  21. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    :cool:
     
  22. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Yeah, I hope David James improves by that point. He won't be able to cope with what the Andorrans have for him.
     
  23. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Just cleaned up a few garbage posts. May I remind some of our guests that trolling in this forum is not welcome.. Thanks
     
  24. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Who exactly is going to stop us?

    Kazaks away
    Andorra home
    Croatia home
    Belarus home
    Ukraine away

    All teams we've dominated and beaten already.

    Ukraine away certainly is a game we would be expected to win. I think going by the Ukranian forum your fans seem to have not realised or are unwilling to accept the reality that England won this game playing well below full effort. At 1-0 and in the 2nd half our players took their foot off the gas knowing Ukraine lacked quality and there are big champions league and title matches to be played.

    Away from home it will be even easier with the players greater focus as shown by the away record, as well as Ukraine having to come out and play for points at that stage rather than stifle, while England can just counter attack at pace. Chances are Walcott and Heskey will be fit for that game as well which will make a better team shape.
     
  25. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    We're already halfway there but by the same token we're only halfway there. Getting 100% record is very tough in any WC qualifying group in the world. We're at the halfway stage and we've already played what is on paper our toughest game, but only takes a bit of bad luck/one particualrly bad perfomance/one particualrly good perfomance from the oppostion and we drop a few points. Way too early for me to talk about qualifiying with a 100% record.
     

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