Thank You David Beckham.

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by ant0n, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So that's what we are lacking, a god player. :D

    I guess Mercury, with his speed, would be a terror on the wings.
     
  2. tadm123

    tadm123 Member

    Mar 26, 2008
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    Sporting Cristal Lima
    funny that you critize him for just making money and don't look all the money galaxy made from selling tickets from the point he decided to play for Galaxy, not to mention the enormous amounts money they from selling his shirts, accesories, to name a few. You really think Galaxy targeted specially Beckham and signed him to "help american soccer?" . No ,they sign him because he's prolly the name that sells the most nowadays.

    I'd even say that Beckham doesn't care about the money all that much, stop believing in the media, why would he then go to Milan? he wants to play in a top/competitive league which the MLS isn't, the american media is bashing him unfairly, he wants to end his career on a high note and continue to play for his NT which in the MLS he couldn't do either of those.
     
  3. bigdumbgod

    bigdumbgod Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    'cept he signed a contract to help elevate MLS, not just his checkbook. Then bailed out.
     
  4. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We, or at least I, criticize David Beckham for what he said and promised and not for anything else. As far as I am concerned AEG can go take a flying **** at a rolling doughnut.
     
  5. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Well he's not gone yet. And I thought the Galaxy had been ordered to cut off talks with AC Milan last week anyway.
     
  6. bigdumbgod

    bigdumbgod Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Not sure if the management of AC Milan take seriously orders from anybody.
     
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    From who Baby Don Gerber? Like he really means anything in Beckham'$ life....:D
     
  8. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even Bad Boy Beckham has to honor his contract. That's all the leverage Garber needs even if it makes Beckham unhappy. Not like Beckham does much for the league besides standing on the field like a stiff anyway.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    A's68, as a lawyer, I'm sure you know more than us that are many loopholes and ways to break contracts. Litigation and international lawyers have ways of worming, welching or weaseling out of commitments. I've seen it done in international soccer as well as other entities and its not unthinkable that his contract can not be broken. .
     
  10. RobsterCraw

    RobsterCraw Member

    Mar 28, 2008
    I don't think anyone is going to find any loopholes that will get him out of his contract. The ywill have to reach an argeement. However, that contract is only worth so much to LA. For Milan, Beckham's services are worth something too. Any transfer agreement would entail a payment that would sufficiently compensate LA for an amount that is equal to or greater than LA's valuation of the contract minus the wages LA pays Beckham, and less than or equal to the amount Milan thinks he is worth, minus what Milan would pay him.
    However, the trick is that Beckham can leave on a free transfer in one year's time. With time running out on the contract, if LA/MLS, wants to get anything from his transfer, they need to do it soon. Everyone including Milan knows this so they know that LA have no grounds to ask for an exorbant amount of money.
    Plus, extending his loan is the only way for Beckham to effectively transfer to Milan immediately, the next chance LA have to sell him to anybody else is in half a year. If LA think any team is going to pay big bucks for somebody who can sign for free 6 months later, they need to get their heads checked. So in this sense Milan have an advantaged bargaining position. If LA don't extend his loan, then they would have to assume that Beckham will go away on a free transfer in 10 months. Unless, for whatever reason the think that Beckham would give up and resign with them, if he doesn't get traded now.
    Considering that Beckham joined Milan, trained for a few weeks and then became an important part of their midfield equation quite impressively, I'm not sure that playing in LA would be so bad for his chances of playing for his national team. If he can comeback and train with England for a few week and play like he has for Milan, he might as well enjoy his time at LA and soak up more hollywood paparazzi attention. That formula may even be better for him in terms of impressing Capello. We are talking about a player who, after ManU, has always been at his best when he was up against the odds; when people doubted him, and always at his worst when he's been able to settle comfortably.
     
  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I doubt playing in LA will really hurt his chances. If anything, playing the summer months might help his chances.

    In reality, you are talking about 6 games and even less if England qualifies for 1st in their group before the end of summer which can happen depending on what Croatia and Ukraine do or don't do. The Galaxy in effect will have problemns if Beckham does go back on the 9th as he will have to go back for a WCQ game on 4/1/09 and then again for 2-3 weeks in May/June ...also, in October if they don't qualify right away so they should think about that also......

    Match Played - April 1, 2009
    England v Ukraine


    Match Played - June 6, 2009
    Kazakhstan v England



    Match Played - June 10, 2009

    England v Andorra



    Match Played - September 9, 2009

    England v Croatia


    Match Played - October 14, 2009

    England v Belarus



    England 12
    Croatia 7
    Ukraine 7
    Belarus 3
    Kazakhstan 3
    Andorra 0


    You are right about Milan being stringent on their fee. They know full well they will get him for free in January so why in the world would they want to spend all of this now? The only thing is, I seriously doubt Beckham (after playing well for AC MILAN) would want to come back here right now.
     
  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Question is, is Beckham worth more to the league if he stays or goes. If he goes the league gets the compensation from Milan. Question is does that outweight the obvious boost in ticket sales he causes league wise.
     
  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    The way LeWeakLAy explains it, I guess the compensation from Milan is not enough.
     
  14. RobsterCraw

    RobsterCraw Member

    Mar 28, 2008
    I wouldn't think it would be.
    Beckham is the kind of wide player that Milan don't have, his ability to put in inch-perfect crosses from wide positions is very useful, but otherwise they have a number of players with remarkable passing vision, Pirlo and Ronaldinho particularly, they just don't play wide right. Those same two players can provide good set piece service as well. Had Milan won the Derby della Madonnina, they'd still have a shot at the Scudetto and extending Beckham would have been a part of their push to win it. At this point, they can only try to ensure that they qualify for the Champions league. They are already in a good position to do that, they don't need Beckham as much. They'll have Kaka playing again shortly, plus at the beginning of the next season, Milan will have Gattuso back and will be expected to push towards bringing Ronaldinho back to full fitness.
     
  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    That doesn't surprise me in the slightest either. And if that's the case Milan and Beckham can say whatever they want, but come opening day Beckham will be in LA. He's under contract to LA, he'll play for LA or for no one. Even completely unhappy Beckham will make the MLS craploads of cash and that's all that matters in the end.
     
  16. Benz280

    Benz280 Member

    Sep 4, 2006
    Galaxias
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Ditto.
    We want 15 mil if we don't get it, he will be here.
     
  17. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Yeah, what I find funny is Milan trying to negotiate. What's to negotiate. You either give us the money we're asking for, or no deal. MLS in this case holds all the cards.
     
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
  19. amir

    amir Member

    Feb 19, 2001
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    This is one of those situations where you think to yourself, how does the rest of the world look at the MLS? Are we a joke league? Do we have any pull in the international football world? Good, no and yes; to simplify.

    During my long hours at work I have nothing better to do than read and listen to the international media give their opinions about our great league. At times I want to turn everything off and not hear a word from any of these so called “futbal experts,” but once in a while there’s some light at the end of the tunnel. I have heard more and more reports about how Milan will ruin the sanctity of the sport by this deal and how the MLS need to figure out a plan to keep Beckham Mania alive in America.

    Lets face it, you cant compare a demoralized team like the falaxy to the glorified so called Italian Giants Milan. But what does this show us of contracts. We all know that contracts in the professional sporting world mean less than Donovan’s third (and hopefully final) stint in Germany. However, we should embrace the fact that we had the opportunity to see Beckham and see LA fail with such a high caliber athlete. Tell David to come the Quakes, he would never think about going anywhere else.
     
  20. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is so stupid it's funny. Made me laugh. :D What it shows to the rest of the world if Beckham stays is that we mean business when clubs want to buy our best players.
     
  21. amir

    amir Member

    Feb 19, 2001
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Your right it does we mean business if he stays. But that’s the beauty of it, but honestly can you tell me it’s the smartest decision on his part? What it comes down to is what’s best for Beckham. Listen, I want nothing more to see him come back. I want nothing more for the MLS to grow into a league that can compete with the rest of the world. It should start by getting rid of a playoff and having a table with relegation and all that but that’s another issue. I work for the Quakes, which means if David comes to Oakland I have a chance to meet him again. I’m on your side, I’m at work don’t be coming down on me like that anton with a zero.
     
  22. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point. Despite my feelings about AEG. I think they should show the children of this world, and a lot of adults, too, that a contract and a promise should be honored. Most of the time, they are getting just the opposite message, i.e., if you've got enough money, you can buy yourself out of anything.
     
  23. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't care if you are on my side or not. I never even challenged if you were or not. You of all people would know considering your job that the Quakes do not have a stadium and they do not have the funds. For me I really don't care if Beckham stays or leaves because he is not worth the salary considering he has not done anything on the field that deserves it apart from when a few games in his first year and his first visit to Oakland. What I do care is I don't want the league to be taken advantage of just because a player wants to leave. The real question is why did the Galaxy and MLS ever let him go out on loan to begin with? Now that is stupid.
     
  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
  25. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States

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