Shake up at Chivas USA?

Discussion in 'Archives: CD Chivas USA' started by glyconerd, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. glyconerd

    glyconerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    Luis Bueno

    :eek:

    I still think it's bs, but we'll see.

    His source is mural, a big soccer magazine in Guadalajara. But I guess we'll know when he talks to the locals.
     
  2. ChivaFan

    ChivaFan New Member

    May 29, 2006
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did that rumor come from?
    And, whose fault is it that we have so few (like almost none) Mexican players?
    If Vergara wanted to I would think he could open a pipeline and feed us some pretty talented lads...So, I don't see that he can complain.
    (Not that I want to seem t be defending Preki, who I think really seriously need to be gone....)
     
  3. casadomecq

    casadomecq New Member

    May 29, 2005
    El Paso
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesus Padilla should be playing with Chivas USA instead of Tampico. The MLS may not be leaps and bounds better than the primera A, but it is better.
     
  4. EastLAChiva

    EastLAChiva Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Section 138
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like non-sense. Vergara needs to bring Bofo or Osvaldo here. He and cue should concentrate on getting our SSS built.
     
  5. MARCH_

    MARCH_ Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WTF, I would understand they aren't happy with the direction of the club, but because the lack of Mexican players on the roster is bull, and stupid.

    If this is true, Chivas USA will go back to its old ways, 2005.

    :mad:

    Hopefully this isn't true.
     
  6. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have heard some rumbling but nothing that can be verified yet. I will be at HDC this week hopefully I will stumble on something good
     
  7. ChivaFan

    ChivaFan New Member

    May 29, 2006
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sure hope that whatever you stumble onto is good for the club...we don't need no more news about losing good players to dumb trades or injuries....
     
  8. CTS26

    CTS26 Member

    LAFC
    United States
    May 26, 2008
    Kannapolis
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here here!:D
     
  9. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    If they really want more Mexicans on Chivas USA, why aren't they giving the team the means to go get more Mexicans from Mexico?

    And why are they taking one of the few Mexians from CUSA and sending him to the mothership?

    I have no idea if management told Preki to win with the best players available or to try and get as many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans as possible. If it's the latter, then they could theoreitcally have a beef with Preki.

    There are lots of other Mexican-Americans - and other Hispanic-Americans - in MLS that C-USA could have traded for or drafted or signed or what not but either didn't acquire or didn't try to draft. (Nick Rimando, Jose Burciaga, Nick Garcia, Eric Avila, Ramiro Corrales, Tony Beltran, etc...)

    I wonder if the Chivas USA bosses are pissed that the team down the hall drafted a Mexican-American in the first round and another Hispanic-American, AJ Delagarza, in the second round who I think is also Mexican-American. (I've been told he's of Mexican descent but his people could be from somewhere else in Latin America.)

    If you're trying to be the "Mexican team" or, at least, the "Hispanic team" and the other team in town is getting more Mexican-Americans than you have in the draft, that might hurt the marketing campaign.
     
  10. MARCH_

    MARCH_ Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eric Avila is a former Chivas USA youth player, and the whole concept of having an all Mexican or Mexican-American team is dumb, and has failed, not only on the field but as a marketing plot. If it wasn't for Shawn Hunter, Chivas USA would be in worse conditions. Its hard enough filling the stadium, if we go back to our 2005 ways this can cost Chivas USA. Instead of them worring about not having enough Mexicans on our roster, how about building us our on stadium!
     
  11. MARCH_

    MARCH_ Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eric Avila is a former Chivas USA youth player, and the whole concept of having an all Mexican or Mexican-American team is dumb, and has failed, not only on the field but as a marketing plot. If it wasn't for Shawn Hunter, Chivas USA would be in worse conditions. Its hard enough filling the stadium, if we go back to our 2005 ways this can cost Chivas USA. Instead of them worrying about not having enough Mexicans on our roster, how about building us our on stadium!
     
  12. elchivamayor

    elchivamayor Member

    Mar 6, 2008
    NORTH HILLS
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    the only reason it fail is because they try to start with 3rd division players from mexico and they try to fixed with palencia and lokito they should start with at least 5 veteran players and the concept of having mexicans in the roster is because like it or not chivas usa represents part of the mexican culture even if we have not latino or mexican players the other teams and supporters in mls still look at cusa as a latino team and it could be good but if we get good mexican players with experience we all know that preky doesnt like latinos he needs to understand the concept of this team:D
     
  13. EastLAChiva

    EastLAChiva Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Section 138
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes!
     
  14. echo-2

    echo-2 Member

    LAFC
    Mexico
    Nov 4, 2007
    San Pedro, CA.
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well said.....and its not that they have to be all Mexican, what drives me up the wall is that Preki seems to have all the resources that all other coaches dont have in Guadalajara. You would think that he would try once in a while to bring in players like Panchito from primera A. Thats a pool that one other coach in the MLS can dip from. He has a secret weapon and dosent even try to use it. @#*! him....I hope this rumor is true!
     
  15. EastLAChiva

    EastLAChiva Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Section 138
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Preki needs to go to Guadalajara on a scouting trip.
     
  16. elchivamayor

    elchivamayor Member

    Mar 6, 2008
    NORTH HILLS
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    yeap
     
  17. RMoreno

    RMoreno Member

    Jan 18, 2005
    Southern California
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Hard to figure out whether this is fact or fiction.

    I really hope that the nightmare that was 2005 is in our distant past. Vergara and Cue must find another way to get their (our) team in the paper. I'm glad to read the passion we have for the team. Even as a Mexican-American I would find it hard to cheer on a team simply because they have Spanish surnames. Those other Mexican-Americans or latinos in the MLS might or might not fit in the ChUSA way of play. Or even in Preki's (whether we agree with him or not).

    Being Mexican-American provides me the unique privilege of cheering on TWO Mens National Teams and Two Chivas teams. In the case of ChUSA, I would much prefer that the local goats supply players to the USMNT than to el Tri. I feel proud to see the diversity that is Chivas USA! Those that put on the Chivas USA jersey are lads like me. It inspires me to cheer on the red and white alongside families of many other cultures that are brought to the stadium by the soccer and the colors of the jerseys not the colors of the players.
     
  18. RMoreno

    RMoreno Member

    Jan 18, 2005
    Southern California
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Oh yeah...

    I almost forgot...

    Who gives a shit what the Galaxy does with their trades or who they draft.
     
  19. El Kapitan

    El Kapitan New Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    Here's the original report from the section San Cadilla of Mural:

    The original report doesn't say directly that they want more Mexican players, only that they feel that the team has become too "gringo" and that they don't like the fact that Preki is not a fan of the Latin touch.

    According to San Cadilla (an alias of the writer or writers, who by the way is or are very accurate) most of the changes would happen on the second half of 2009 (after Chivas participation in Copa Libertadores), as both Bueno and San Cadilla mention the candidates to move to Chivas USA are "Chicharito" Hernandez, a guy who has played for the Mexican NT U-20 back in 07 and with first division Chivas, "Zully" Ledesma Jr., who has played for Youth Mexican NT's and first division Chivas (he happens to be related to Nomar Garciaparra and has lived in the US in the past), "Gringo" Padilla who is kind of famous in these forums for being a US born citizen that has played with first division Chivas. Finally, it claims, that there's a very good chance that for the second half of the season Jared Borgetti will join CUSA and that this was already promised to the league.
     
  20. echo-2

    echo-2 Member

    LAFC
    Mexico
    Nov 4, 2007
    San Pedro, CA.
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Lets cross our finger!
     
  21. EastLAChiva

    EastLAChiva Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Section 138
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not saying we're the best team in the MLS when healthy, but we are better than most teams when we have all our players.
    I've had some serious doubts about Preki managing and his "tactical" moves, but we could have a worse coach.

    All I'm saying is that Cue and Vergara should concentrate on getting a an SSS built, securing as deal to get a DP, and making the team more accessible to "non-Guadalajara" fans of 2 touch football. This is the MLS. WE are not a farm club.

    Making these kind of decisions during the middle of the MLS season sounds like panic.

    I think we all agree that we could care less what ethnicities wear the red and white stripes of Chivas USA. Why we haven't had those players previously mentioned, I don't know. Maybe Preki knows. Maybe Chivas de Guadalajara knows.
     
  22. -REY MISTERIO-

    Aug 2, 2007
    sYLMAR
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    miralo I'm sorpriCE..jajajaj :eek:
    good point Julio
     
  23. dhines

    dhines Red Card

    Jul 23, 2005
    i was really surprised at these latest rumors . . . as they seem like a total step backwards. first off, CUSA started winning when they stopped paying attention to someone's last name and started focusing on getting quality players. secondly, borgetti is not the solution to CUSA's problems. borgetti is getting slower and slower, and he lacks the physical game to push around most MLS backlines.

    i for one call this rumor bullshit and think that these are just the dreams and desires of the disconnected guadalajara management. i really doubt anyone in the HDC offices wants to ditch preki.
     
  24. dodant

    dodant New Member

    Dec 24, 2005
    Mason, Ohio
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This seems like the voice of reason...
    Put a good soccer product on the field and don't really worry about where the players are from.

    Winning solves a lot of problems. Watching a team win and play good soccer is even better.
     
  25. carldub

    carldub New Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    Florissant, MO
    If that rumor was true, why did they send the hardest working player (Mendoza) to play at Chivas Guard?
     

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