Gaza War Discussion Part III

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  1. bigINTERNETTOUGHGUY

    Jan 25, 2008
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    While my hunch is that few people, if anyone, have had their opinions changed by the discussions on this board, I'll jump into the fray just a bit and try to answer your posting...

    You accuse Israel of neglecting to explain its actions. Are you, perhaps, neglecting to accept their explanations? This is, in fact, quite different from Israel not providing an explanation.

    It's been reported that Hamas has placed rocket launchers in and around schools, homes and mosques. Of course, this only adds to the likelihood that innocent people will be injured and/or die in the conflict. It is impossible to strike military targets with 100% accuracy due to a myriad of factors including the accuracy of weapons and the accuracy of intelligence. Do you really believe that Israel is going out of its way to harm innocent civilians?

    Israel has faced a double standard from the get-go. The article below, from the Wall Street Journal, summarizes many points quite succinctly. Even if you don't agree with it, at very least, you won't be able to claim that you've never had an explanation:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123137495711862883.html
     
  2. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
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    There was a pro israeli rally where they said they supported EVERYTHING israel is doing..

    Patheltic asses..I guess its ok with them to kill one third the population of a city...

    I Think i Understand now what hamaz is trying to do....I do think that they are using there own people to achive thre goal...that is the sad part...But they are obvuiosly putting tremendous presssure of all the arab leaders..the more civilan dead the more....

    Are israeli ground forces that weak? Obviously a ground attack would mean less civilan casuallties and this is so possibe especially with israelstroying pretty much everything already
     
  3. Saudi64

    Saudi64 Member

    Apr 28, 2004
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    Of course your not, no human person would justify the bombing of a UN school, of course only the poor and innocent Israelis.
     
  4. Saudi64

    Saudi64 Member

    Apr 28, 2004
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    So what? When you cut water, electricity, and everything that a human deserves to have what do you think the people there will do to defend themselves? Do you want them to stand there and watch as their people get killed? They will do anything to fight back and defend their city, no they will NOT give up, they will NOT lose another area of their home to Israel, and it is Israel's fault 100%. Their people are not in danger, their people are not dying and suffering every day, they have all the modern weapons and tactics to defeat the strongest militaries let alone a group of unorganized army with no supplies. They can not bomb the school and still defeat Hamas, but they knew that civilians where there but STILL bombed the school. Who's the murderer and terrorist now? Don't try to justify Israel's actions, people from all races, religions, and parts of the world are protesting against what Israel is doing.
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    LOL

    You are new around here :D

    Scarecrow is one of the biggest apologists you are likely to come across. I wouldn't waste the electrons on it :p
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Here's what well know terrorist appeaser and anti-Semite liar Naomi Klein has to say.....

    Enough. It's time for a boycott


     
  7. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
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    Welcome to BS. I told myself my energy was better used elsewhere, and so I've only posted in this thread a few times. Anyway, good luck, and maybe we'll converse somewhere else down the road.
     
  8. PinoyMarauder

    PinoyMarauder Member

    Apr 10, 2008
    Philippines/Canada
    yeah..just use that energy to support Israel...Im sure you would be happy with that..you at least get rid of arabs there.
     
  9. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
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    Considering that Israel supplies Palestinians with 90% of their water, electricity, fuel, gas and humanitarian aid while still being under constant rocket attacks? Evil, pure evil...
     
  10. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
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    You don't need to be a terrorist or/and an anti-semite to be an idiot and have dumb ideas, nor to disagree with Israel. The world is doing their best in blaming Israel anyways.

    However, her numbers are off - currently 90% of Israelis support this military operation.

    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L9116659.htm

     
  11. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Ok.....:rolleyes:

    I guess supporting terrorists is better. I bet you enjoyed 9/11 and 7/7 too.
     
  12. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Of course, it must be a fake....:rolleyes:
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Yeah - well that makes sense.
     
  14. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
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    What's the point of divesting from Israel? They own all the banks anyway. Secret conspiracy and stuff. Read it on the internet
     
  15. Mojam5

    Mojam5 New Member

    Sep 21, 2007
    Do not be fooled, this assault is just an excuse to murder as many Palestinians under the slogon of targeting terrorists. People from all over the world will watch this injustice and be driven to extremism and become terrorists, so this ordeal has created many more times the terrorists than the ones actually being killed, and Israel with all its intelligence is full aware of this fact but would rather gain the short term benefits of killing as many Palestinians as the international community will let them get away with.
     
  16. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    I know you know it is......

    Its like the fake maps the US showed of Iraq having nuclear weapons.

    Its just gullible people like you digest whatever Israel is feeding you.
     
  17. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Well you being an apologist for hamas terrorists, it only makes sense that you support other terrorists and there actions as well.
     
  18. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Sure, if you say so, this coming from you is laughable. I bet you believe everything taught to you in your saudi schools about jews right? Careful, they might need some fresh blood for there matzah.

    Of course the map is real and accurate. But because Israel found it and showed it, that makes it a fake. Now if hamas found a map that showed Israeli targets you would be eating that shit up and claiming it as proof of Israeli genocide.

    Still if you think it is a fake, produce some evidence to show it is, and be sure to question the reporters who wrote the story. I am sure they are in on the Israeli conspiracy as well. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
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    Wow, way to completely ignore my post and what the article showed. And I see you justify using human shields and of course blame everything on Israel, because you know they are the only ones that are ever to blame.
     
  20. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
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    Their explanation is incomplete. It is merely the usual broad based explanation that is used over and over again. I want to know why this specific target was hit, because IMO this is a game changer. I have usually given Israel the benefit of the doubt when they are acting in self defense. But I cannot see any scenario where bombing a neutral school full of refugee children and families is even legal, let alone an acceptable tactic of engagement.

    And I'm usually more forgiving about supposed war crimes that most anyone else on this board. Hell, I'm the one around here who doesn't think water boarding is torture.

    Perhaps. Nothing would surprise me. But I can't be sure.

    1) The bias in that article is dripping..

    2) Every civilized nation faces the same double standard. Thems are the breaks.
     
  21. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
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    I have to be honest and mention that I really didnt care for the palestinian/israeli affair.

    throughout life I remembered hearing a jewish woman tell me that there is no such thing as a palestinian. palestine does not exist.

    but from reading these past 3 threads and see how israel is cutting off electricity/water and food to innocent civilians, taking their land to build a stupid wall, and set off an invasion that will probably kill thousands. I hard not to foster hate towards israel.

    I really never hated much in my life but now its really hard.
     
  22. Jorge Amnesia

    Jorge Amnesia Member+

    Dec 9, 2008
    Exactly. Bien dicho. This isn't, a war, hell this isn't an invasion, it's a massacre. And Israel hopefully will get their just deserts.
     
  23. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    Not a unilateral supporter of Israel by any means. I just saw the headline:

    Hamas rocket team leader killed, Israel says

    Gut reaction. Good for them!
     
  24. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    Jul 22, 2001
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    So, to be clear, it is your view that Israel's real motivation in this situation is to kill Palestinians, correct?
     
  25. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005

    Well it seems you already have eaten Israelis shit!
     

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