has he also played as a Deffender for a small time? and America is planning on also qualifying for la libertadores so its good to have depth in the team. hes a hardworking player, good move. hes quiet but gets his job done.
Wow!! were getting everybody im happy to see Castillo Joining and hopefully Valenzuela do good, so with both of them and supposedly Ortiz is also joining we wont need Da silva but im happy were getting national players and not foreigners who are not proven
Gringo Castro joins Tigres http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia/71144/ya-esta-el-gringo-castro-con-tigres/
I think los Americanistas se estan ilusionando mucho. America has a way of bringing in some solid players and sucking them into that black hole that is coapa.
its not america idiot. its that they arent mature enough to handle the pressure of the club which is far greater than ANY club in the league...and when players dont know how to handle it then they will be fukced...
We''ll see "idiot". No te enojes aguilita. I mean just look at recent signings- S.Dominguez, A.Moreno, 'El negro" Medina. I just hope the same thing doesn't happen to castillo, the future left back of la seleccion.
no insults please. Lets all remember this is the America forum, we dont bring Chivas vs America arguments here. thx
uhh im pretty sure thats what it is.......if you think that just because its AMERICA they go to shit, then u def have to be narrowminded, it is obviously the level of maturity of the player and how firm they are as a player.....
It has nothing to do with being narrowminded. It has more to do with the unrealistic expectations the media and fans place on the team.
no the expectations should be on the team. which like it or not is a BIG CLUB! and too much money is put into the club so yea expectations should be there....like it or not, AMERICA is a huge club not only in mexico but in Latin America.
America has been doing the same shit for a long time, they dump a ton of money into a bunch of players and expect them to show up and win every game they play. It doesn't work like that. There are so many factors that go into building a winning team and writing blank checks isn't the answer. It's that same mentality that has the national team in the gutter. Always thinking they're better than they really are.
Seems to work for Chelsea, Man U, the Lakers, Celtics, Yankees, and Red Sox. America spent this past year trying to be Chivas instead of buying all the good players like we usually do. We need to stay within our identity, and buying all the best players and hoping they gel is our identity. If you don't like it, that's why you're not an America fan, and that's okay, but don't come in this forum and tell us how America should build their team with a non-America mentality and then wonder why we get all chippy about it. I'm not trying to insult you btw saying your mentality is non-America. It's just different team building concepts. I like America because their team building strategy was to buy the best players. Other clubs build and make money off us and that's fine. I'm excited for next year because we're sort of going back to who we are: poachers.
The current format in Mexico doesn't allow for any given team to be a Real Madrid or a Chelsea. If you're gonna buy, buy smart. It seems like Ramon Diaz is doing a good job so far in that regard by acquiring Castillo and Chitiva.
anybody that buys into the notion that America ruins career is more stupid as the reporter that sells it. When Esteban Loaiza left the Yankees, he compared what it was like playing for the White Soxs and what it was like playing for the Yankees. He stated that with the Sox, you were lucky to have 10 reporters in the club house after the games. With the Yankees, you had hundreds every day and they would question your every motive, your every pitch, every decision, every gesture, locker room dynamics, etc. Face it, some players just can not find their place in those type of clubs because they can not get accustomed to that type of atmosphere that surrounds a big club. The criticism, the fame, the expectations, the temptations, may all factor in as well. Couple years back, Puebla had a player that use to ride his bike to practice because he didn't know how to drive. Going from the slow lane into the fast lane.... not many can handle it.
OK, I agree that there might be some players who can't wear the shirt, les pesa mucho. But the front office has a habit of panicking after every tournament and spending lots of money on "panick buys", players who aren't really given the amount of time necessary to adapt to the team (or the league.) Alfredo Moreno and Enrique Vera are panick buys and it shows. Why would they acquire Vera when they were thinking on bringing Negro Medina, two players that play in the same position. What was the point of that when you also have canteranos waiting on the wings for a chance to show they can ball. They'd be better off following the Chivas model (canteranos a los que no les pesa la playera) and filling in the holes with the expensive foreign players. It seems like the FO is trying to right the ship by being patient with the coaching staff and slowly weeding out the players that haven't been up to snuff like Dominguez and Gringo Castro. Teams need continuity and a plan. That's my point, no matter how big America is, they're not going to suddenly start winning because they spend a lot of money on foreign and domestic players.
With all due respect, you are talking out of your ass. first of all, Alfredo Moreno was an estblished Mexican league player who had won a top goal scorer award. Enrique Vera, was not only voted the best player in Ecuador, he was also part of the LDU Quito team that won the Copa Libertadores. America's scouts saw first hand his abilities when America and LDU faced each other off in the semis. Second of all, Villa's career is coming to an end and many were saying that the defenisve mid field role needed to be filled. Along with Arguello, there needed to be another strong Dmid. Enrique Vera, from what he did in Ecuador, was a viable option. FYI, Medina is not a defensive midfielder (medio de contencion). You can not consider those panick buys when their CV show that they have done something worth noting. like I said, you are talking out of your ass
No offense taken. I think their performances over the past 4 months speak for themselves. You can choose to look the other way but the stats don't lie. Moreno didn't last (or wasn't given enough time to adapt) and has moved on to Necaxa. I mean, surely such an "established" goalscorer like Moreno would have scored more than four goals (on average 1 goal scored every 4 games) for America. He was brought in to score, wasn't he? Vera's season and contributions can be summed up in one play against Chivas. It wouldn't be fair to the guy to judge him based on his first season and you're doing a pretty good job of defending him by bringing up his performances with LDU, a team in which he played a more advanced role and contributed much more offensively than what he's done at America. Enrique Vera essentially played the same position at LDU that Medina played at Atlas, a midfielder who could defend but was far more concerned with attacking and managing tempos, although Vera is more of a DM when compared to Medina. You know damn well that Arias had a perfect system in which Moreno could thrive. It's not the same at America. You know, contrary to what you might believe, it's not a crime for someone to disagree with you. If you want to ignore the fact that your FO has done more damage than good lately then you're in denial.
Like i said, you do not know what you are talking about. Their performances have been shit, but their track record before America was suffice to be considered in joining the club. You can not consider them panic buys because America needed to think about the future. That is what you can not comprehend and that is why you can not call them panick buys. Bullshit, Moreno was given every opportunity to adapt. He just could not perform. Stop backtracking. You are only saying this because I caught you on your bullshit about Medina and Vera playing the same positions. Do not sugar coat it, face it, I caught you on your bullshit about Medina and Vera playing the same exact positions and having the same roles. No it is not, but at least provide a sound argument rather than making shit up and speaking on whims and sensationalizing things panic buys? listen to yourself Did America need another defensive midfielder? Yes, Villa's age and productivity had been a concern to many. Arguello is the only other viable option and you still need more than 1 dmid on your roster. Omar tena is not ready yet (do not know if he will be). Did America need another goal scorer? Yes, Enrique Esqueda has shown promise, but is not the solution either. Going for an establish gaol scorer in Mexico wasn't a bad idea. By your own logic, any player that doesn't perform can be considered a panic buy. A panic buy is more so an acquisition that is done on a whim with no sense of logic as to what the club is trying to accomplish. America needed a Dmid, that is not secret. Villa was an aging vet. Vera did have a good track record before joining America. His resume speaked for itself. The fact he has not performed is another issue all together. Scouts are not fortune tellers. You never know if a player will cut it.